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Disputed AfC submission. This subject fails WP:GNG or WP:ANYBIO by all means. The milestone "Tony Elumelu Entrepreneur" does not inherently confer notability as over a hundred could be in a year. The source analysis below will give you further insight. I also suspect WP:UPE and WP:COI going on.

Source assessment table: prepared by User:Vanderwaalforces
Source Independent? Reliable? Significant coverage? Count source toward GNG?
https://pmnewsnigeria.com/2024/04/25/lagos-partners-naija-brand-chick-for-hospitality-trade-fair/ No We can't be sure of WP:INDEPENDENT when there's no byline in the first place. No While publication is reliable per WP:NGRS, the piece is unreliable because we can't rely on a piece without a byline. No Utterly no, this is more or less a routine coverage. ✘ No
https://guardian.ng/guardian-woman/metrowoman-entrepreneur-of-the-week-nelly-agbogu/ No This is an interview. No Ditto. Yes ✘ No
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kq89nLdKp4U No Fails WP:INDEPENDENT. No Whether some will say TED, the publisher of this video, is reliable or YouTube is an unreliable source, this is unreliable still because it involves the appearance of the subject. No Ditto. ✘ No
https://edition.cnn.com/2024/08/05/africa/nelly-agbogu-naijbrandchick-intl-cmd/index.html No Reading this piece makes it clear that it is not entirely independent of the subject. The phrase "Courtesy Nelly Agbogu" at the end suggests that she is the source of this information, implying that either she provided it directly or the information is being shared with her permission or acknowledgment. No While the publication is reliable, we can't rely on a piece that fails WP:INDEPENDENCE. No Does not provide the WP:SIGCOV on the subject that we need on Wikipedia. ✘ No
https://thesun.ng/naijabrandchick-offers-game-changing-program-to-help-online-business-owners-dominate-sales-and-influence/ No Reading this makes it clear that it fails WP:INDEPENDENT. The piece lacks a byline. No Reliable publication per WP:NGRS but the piece lacks a byline and we can't rely on such, especially when it fails WP:INDEPENDENT. No This isn't about the subject. ✘ No
https://guardian.ng/saturday-magazine/over-200-exhibitors-expected-at-tourism-fair/ Unassessed because it does not even apply to the subject at all. No Ditto, and lacks a proper byline while looking like a WP:ROTM. No Ditto, and there is no WP:SIGCOV on the subject either. ✘ No
https://www.tonyelumelufoundation.org/marketing-materials/meet-the-selected-1000-tony-elumelu-entrepreneurs-for-2017 This is not a source or piece used to establish notability in the first place. Ditto. Ditto. ? Unknown
https://twmagazine.net/tw-tv/tw-everyday/women-love-nelly-agbogu/ No Piece is an interview, thus failing WP:INDEPENDENT. No Ditto. Yes ✘ No
https://www.globalbrandsmagazine.com/how-nelly-agbogu-is-transforming-nigerian-entrepreneurship/ No Piece lacks a byline and reading it makes it clear that it is not entirely independent of the subject. No We can't rely on a piece that lacks a byline, plus the publication itself is not reliable because it looks like a part of a news PR system. No Piece does not provide the WP:SIGCOV we need. ✘ No
https://archive.businessday.ng/enterpreneur/article/nelly-agbogus-biggest-challenge-birthed-business-journey/ No Piece is an interview, thus failing WP:INDEPENDENT. No Ditto. Yes ✘ No
https://www.cnbcafrica.com/2017/business-of-healthy-living-in-nigeria/ No Fails WP:INDEPENDENT as an interview. No Ditto, even though the publication is a reliable one. No Ditto. ✘ No
https://www.vanguardngr.com/2024/06/lagos-govt-naija-brand-chick-continue-to-build-economy-through-tourism/amp/ No If this is entirely legitimate, I wonder why it would lack a byline. No No byline, marginally reliable per WP:NGRS. No WP:ROTM or routine coverage. ✘ No
Citation 13: https://www.thisdaylive.com/index.php/2024/06/07/naijabrandchicks-dsi-programme-empowering-women-to-transform-industries/ ,

Citation 15: https://dailytimesng.com/four-reasons-to-attend-lagos-tourism-nbc-tradefair-nelly/ ,

Citation 16: https://lagosstate.gov.ng/lasg-reiterates-continuous-support-for-smes-as-lagos-tourism-nbc-3-day-trade-fair-ends/ ,

Citation 18: https://www.vanguardngr.com/2024/07/wema-bank-nbc-smedan-to-hold-inter-continental-trade-empower-women/amp/ ,

Citation 20: https://msmeafricaonline.com/wema-bank-and-smedan-collaborate-to-empower-women-led-msmes-through-naija-brand-chick-trade-fair/ ,

Citations 21 all through 24.

All these sources are unassessed because they cannot be used to establish a proton of notability on the subject. Ditto. Ditto. ? Unknown
Citation 14: https://businessday.ng/sponsored/article/naijabrandchicks-dsi-program-transforms-women-entrepreneurs-into-industry-leaders/ ,

Citation 19: https://businessday.ng/sponsored/article/fez-delivery-is-the-official-delivery-partner-at-nbc-african-fair-london-2024/

No Sponsored pieces. No Ditto. No Ditto. ✘ No
https://www.vanguardngr.com/2024/06/participants-laud-6th-naija-brand-chick-trade-fair/amp/ No Lacks byline as usual, ditto. No Ditto. No Fails WP:SIGCOV. ✘ No
This table may not be a final or consensus view; it may summarize developing consensus, or reflect assessments of a single editor. Created using {{source assess table}}.

Vanderwaalforces (talk) 11:09, 16 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Comment: The assessment table created by the nom seems to disregard every source. My use of sources is based onWP:NGRS ensuring that the subject passes WP:GNG. I am even more surprised to see the assessment of CNN and TedX. Marking all the notable newspapers Vanguard, Punch, The Sun etc as unreliable makes me wonder what Nigerian Editors can then use for referencing. Also, kindly look at his talk page to see how our conversations based on his accusation prior to this went (I can’t seem to link to it). I will not vote a keep but would prefer other neutral editors to look into this objectively and vote accordingly. Mevoelo (talk) Mevoelo
  • Delete: I have confirmed the source analysis table independently and before reading it. I suggest the be a soft delete - without prejudice to future re-creation - because I sense that Nelly Agbogu approaches WP:BIO despite not quite being there, certainly as referenced. A major rewrite and re-referencing at this stage will change my mind, provided the WP:HEY is done sufficiently well. This means that unreferenced so called facts must be removed, and faux references must go, along with the facts they purport to verify. 🇺🇦 FiddleTimtrent FaddleTalk to me 🇺🇦 12:12, 16 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete Thanks for the thorough source analysis, which I concur with, and according to which notability is indeed not established. I get the impression of someone who is 'famous for being famous', which probably at least in part explains the WP:REFBOMBING with flaky sources. Fails WP:GNG. --DoubleGrazing (talk) 12:46, 16 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    PS: The referencing is also rather lacking: I checked out a few of the sources, and the first one (#1) did not verify the DOB against which it is cited; the second (#7) is cited at the end of the 'Biography' and verifies only the very last, and arguably the least significant, statement in that section, with the educational history completely unsupported; and the third (#8) does verify that she worked for Schlumberger, but not what role she held. Which begs the question, if all those details didn't come from the sources cited against them, where did they come from? -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 12:50, 16 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    The source from which got the DOB is here, although it appears I ended up not adding it to the reference list. For the role she held, I cannot specifically state which of the sources but it was part of the info I got while researching. If I’m not mistaken, it was stated on her TedEx Talk. Mevoelo (talk) 13:34, 16 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep Subject was a nominee for an award and has substantial reliable independent references to meet WP:Notable. Tesleemah 08:01, 23 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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