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The Two Deaths of Ruth Lyle by Nick Louth
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it was ok
bookshelves: 2-stars, other-arc-sources

In a Nutshell: The first book of a new police procedural series. Not so impressed. While the mystery is dark and the plot contains enough twists, the lead detective is incompetent, much of the plot is extremely coincidental, and the ending has one of the most illogical infodumps I have ever read. I don’t think I’ll continue with this series. This is an outlier review.

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Plot Preview:
Ilfracombe, England. DI Jan Talantire has been called to a little cottage where a senior citizen has been murdered, impaled with a crucifix. When she discovers that the name of the victim is Ruth Lyle, she is stunned. Almost exactly fifty years earlier, sixteen-year-old Ruth Lyle had been murdered, also impaled with a crucifix, at exactly the same location. The old evidence is now inaccessible due to the passage of time and the shoddy maintenance of paper documents, and the new evidence suggests that the victims are the same. How is this possible? Is someone copying the earlier murder? Was someone else killed earlier and the body misidentified? How can one woman die twice?
The story comes to us in the shifting third person perspectives of various characters, but mostly from Jan Talantire’s point of view.


Bookish Yays:
✔ A great premise and title – eye-catching and creating an instant hook.

✔ The setting of Ilfracombe – loved how the location was used throughout the plot.

✔ The focus on the racism and sexism within the force.


Bookish Mixed Bags:
⚠ Some interesting supporting characters in the police team, but they do not get enough page space as the spotlight is mainly on Talantire.

⚠ The plot routinely mentions the personal lives of the detectives, be it struggles with a new relationship or marital issues or the aftermath of a divorce. While this adds to their character, the information is too scattered to be relevant. Some things are left dangling, especially with Jan’s potential suitor. (Might be tackled in the next book of the series; who knows!)

⚠ The plot goes at a steady pace without feeling rushed. Until the final few chapters, which zoom by at F1 speed.

⚠ The struggles to find the paper documents of the original investigation felt so real. But some of the later reveals about what happened to the evidence of the historical crime were ridiculously farfetched.

⚠ There are a couple of twists and red herrings that caught me by surprise. However, when the rationale for these twists is later established, they seem exaggerated. Also, one of the major reveals is just outlandish, and, I think, fairly offensive to the group in question.

⚠ The police procedural parts have a mostly realistic feel. However, many of the decisions lack common sense and most members of the police team (both past and present) commit clumsy mistakes along the way. When the team succeeds at the end, it seems more a result of luck than brains.

⚠ This is just something I found odd. The initial few chapters randomly switch between ‘Jan’ and ‘Talantire’, but later, the DI is called only Talantire. However, the rest of her team and most other characters are referred to by their first names. Given that Talantire is the protagonist of the series, calling her Talantire kept her more distant from me.


Bookish Nays:
❌ I didn’t like DI Jan Talantire. For someone in her late thirties and with so much experience in the force, she comes across as impulsive, naïve, shortsighted, presumptive and careless – none of which are preferred attributes for the DI lead of a series.

❌ The crucifix that has a main role in both murders is used to generate a dark religious undertone to the crime. But this potential is almost entirely wasted. It felt like some magical realism was being forced into the story, but it just didn’t work.

❌ There are big chunks of fact dumps at times during the conversations connected to the historical background of the crucifix and the cottage. It felt like a Wikipedia entry was being thrown our way.

❌ The investigation is intriguing at the start but soon gets too convoluted and relies too much on coincidences. There are also logical loopholes and plot gaps unexplained till the end. Talantire takes some investigative decisions that just don’t make sense, until we see that the identity of the culprit lies in that direction. Sorry to say this, but it felt like very lazy plotting.

❌ THE ENDING! Tanked the overall experience! I hate infodumps with all my heart, but this is among the worst infodumps I have read, especially considering the background of the person revealing everything. The person’s actions during the finale as well as the revelations made defy all logic. What an anticlimactic climax!


All in all, I was sure at the start that this would be a winner for me. I enjoy police procedurals far more than regular thrillers or cosy mysteries for they often have the best combination of investigation, action, and resolution. In this book though, the investigation is a mixed bag of coincidences, the action is almost non-existent until the end, and the resolution merits no mention. Even if the rest of the book was above average, the ending could have elevated it. But sadly, the finale turned out to be a disappointment of mammoth proportions.

For most of the way, I had been shuffling back and forth between 3 and 3.5 stars as my rating, but the ending made my decision easy.

If you look at the other reviews though, you will see that most readers are highly impressed with this work. So please go through them before you take a call as I am quite the outlier in this opinion. My journey with this series will stop here.

2 stars.


I received a complimentary copy of this book from the author through The Pigeonhole. This review is voluntary and contains my honest opinion about the book. Sorry this didn’t work out better.


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Reading Progress

April 11, 2024 – Shelved
April 11, 2024 – Shelved as: arcs-not-started
April 28, 2024 – Started Reading
May 4, 2024 – Shelved as: 2-stars
May 4, 2024 – Shelved as: other-arc-sources
May 4, 2024 – Finished Reading

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Kavya (wishes and tries to be more active) The plot indeed sounds quite intriguing! But I would have liked an explanation not rooted in magical realism.

The clumsy but lucky routine works for protagonists who are unwittingly pulled into an investigation. They don't have the expertise so they require the coincident reveals. But a woman with so many years of experience deserves better than this cutesy portrayal.

Excellent review Rosh!


message 2: by Karly (new)

Karly What a shame this one was a flop Rosh!! I hope your next read is better. 🩷


Shelley's Book Nook Such a great review, Rosh. Your writing is probably better than this book. Everything you mentioned wrong or Nay is all Nope, Nope, Nope, Nope, Nope from me. I love how honest you are, don't ever change. I hope your next one is a winner. 🤗💕


message 4: by Darla (new)

Darla Oh, no! The dreaded infodump. This does sound awfully dark and a weak beginning for the series. Excellent review, Rosh!


message 5: by Jayme (new)

Jayme Sorry it disappointed! 💞


Marilyn (recuperating from hip replacement surgery Oh well! On to your next book. Sorry this was not what you expected. Great review, Rosh!💜


message 7: by Carey (new)

Carey I found your review as I was considering picking this one up and wow thank you for the detailed review - this is definitely one I would have disliked as well!


message 8: by Thibault (new)

Thibault Busschots That’s not a lot of yays unfortunately. And the info dumping is definitely something that can feel too much very quickly. Sorry to see that this one didn’t work better for you. Fair review, Rosh. Hope your next read will knock your socks off :)


Maureen ( NOT RECEIVING NOTIFICATIONS) Fair and honest review Rosh, sorry it wasn’t a better read. 💕


message 10: by Srivalli (new)

Srivalli Rekha Aww... yet another mystery with info dump to annoy you. Do I want to know what illogical ending it was? Hmm.. maybe not.
Sorry, Rosh. Hope you find a mystery you can love. Terrific review!


Tina (not receiving notifications!) Thanks for your honesty. Sorry this didn't quite capture your attention. Hoping you'll find a better series next 💝


Sandysbookaday Thanks for your beautifully written, honest review Rosh. I'll avoid this one. Sorry it wasn't a better read for you. 💕📚


message 13: by Rachel (new)

Rachel Hanes So sorry this was a disappointment, and the ending totally ruined it for you. I hope that the next police procedural that you read is a winner for you!! Great review, Rosh! 💗


message 14: by Heidi (new)

Heidi Ugh— appreciate your excellent and fair review. Gotta admit, than an incompetent detective is a deal breaker. Using coincidence too much is another!! Hope your next new series is more enjoyable!! 😎


message 15: by Debra (new)

Debra bummer that it wasn't impressive. Great review, Rosh!


Nancy (playing catch-up) Between the dreaded info dump and the incompetent lead detective, I think I can safely skip this one.


message 17: by A (new)

A Mac Uh oh - those mediocre and no aspects are just no good. It sounds like this one needs some major reworking to make it much more compelling. Fair review, Rosh!


message 18: by Rosh (new) - rated it 2 stars

Rosh Kavya wrote: "The plot indeed sounds quite intriguing! But I would have liked an explanation not rooted in magical realism.

The clumsy but lucky routine works for protagonists who are unwittingly pulled into a..."


Thanks, Kavya! Oh, the main explanation isn't rooted in magical realism. But there are scenes where hints of magical realism are there, which don't make sense with the rest of the plot. The whole story was like that actually - worked in bits and pieces but as a whole, very cluttered and disjointed. What a waste of a great premise!


message 19: by Rosh (new) - rated it 2 stars

Rosh Karly wrote: "What a shame this one was a flop Rosh!! I hope your next read is better. 🩷"

Thanks, Karly! ♥


message 20: by Rosh (new) - rated it 2 stars

Rosh Shelley's Book Nook wrote: "Such a great review, Rosh. Your writing is probably better than this book. Everything you mentioned wrong or Nay is all Nope, Nope, Nope, Nope, Nope from me. I love how honest you are, don't ever c..."

Thanks so much for your kind words, dear Shelley! ♥ :)


message 21: by Rosh (new) - rated it 2 stars

Rosh Darla wrote: "Oh, no! The dreaded infodump. This does sound awfully dark and a weak beginning for the series. Excellent review, Rosh!"

Thanks, Darla! And a horrid infodump at that! I could still rant about how bad it was. :/


message 22: by Rosh (new) - rated it 2 stars

Rosh Jayme wrote: "Sorry it disappointed! 💞"

Thanks, Jayme! ♥


message 23: by Rosh (new) - rated it 2 stars

Rosh Marilyn (trying to catch up) wrote: "Oh well! On to your next book. Sorry this was not what you expected. Great review, Rosh!💜"

Thanks much, Marilyn! ♥


message 24: by Rosh (new) - rated it 2 stars

Rosh Carey wrote: "I found your review as I was considering picking this one up and wow thank you for the detailed review - this is definitely one I would have disliked as well!"

Thanks, Carey! That ending makes it a poor option for most readers, I guess.


message 25: by Rosh (new) - rated it 2 stars

Rosh Thibault wrote: "That’s not a lot of yays unfortunately. And the info dumping is definitely something that can feel too much very quickly. Sorry to see that this one didn’t work better for you. Fair review, Rosh. H..."

Thanks, Thibault! Infodumping is as it is irritating in mysteries, but this one just left me speechless. The entire scene was unconvincing. Still fuming about it!


message 26: by Rosh (new) - rated it 2 stars

Rosh Maureen wrote: "Fair and honest review Rosh, sorry it wasn’t a better read. 💕"

Thanks much, Maureen! ♥


message 27: by Rosh (new) - rated it 2 stars

Rosh Srivalli wrote: "Aww... yet another mystery with info dump to annoy you. Do I want to know what illogical ending it was? Hmm.. maybe not.
Sorry, Rosh. Hope you find a mystery you can love. Terrific review!"


The problem is that it wasn't even a mystery, so I was not prepared for that infodump. and it was so, so senseless! I could still rant about it!
Thanks, Sri!


message 28: by Rosh (new) - rated it 2 stars

Rosh Tina wrote: "Thanks for your honesty. Sorry this didn't quite capture your attention. Hoping you'll find a better series next 💝"

Thanks, Tina! ♥ I hope so too.


message 29: by Rosh (new) - rated it 2 stars

Rosh Sandysbookaday wrote: "Thanks for your beautifully written, honest review Rosh. I'll avoid this one. Sorry it wasn't a better read for you. 💕📚"

Thanks much, Sandy! ♥ Good decision!


message 30: by Rosh (new) - rated it 2 stars

Rosh Rachel wrote: "So sorry this was a disappointment, and the ending totally ruined it for you. I hope that the next police procedural that you read is a winner for you!! Great review, Rosh! 💗"

Thanks so much, Rachel! ♥ I hope so too!


message 31: by Rosh (new) - rated it 2 stars

Rosh Heidi wrote: "Ugh— appreciate your excellent and fair review. Gotta admit, than an incompetent detective is a deal breaker. Using coincidence too much is another!! Hope your next new series is more enjoyable!! 😎"

Thanks much, Heidi! Spot on! Bot are unappealing features.


message 32: by Rosh (new) - rated it 2 stars

Rosh Debra wrote: "bummer that it wasn't impressive. Great review, Rosh!"

Thanks, Debra!


message 33: by Rosh (new) - rated it 2 stars

Rosh Nancy wrote: "Between the dreaded info dump and the incompetent lead detective, I think I can safely skip this one."

I'd fully support your decision, Nancy!


message 34: by Rosh (new) - rated it 2 stars

Rosh A wrote: "Uh oh - those mediocre and no aspects are just no good. It sounds like this one needs some major reworking to make it much more compelling. Fair review, Rosh!"

Thanks, A! Even if they made that nonsensical ending convincing, the book would still be an okay one-time read, I guess. But with the current ending, no way. :/


message 35: by Srivalli (new)

Srivalli Rekha Rosh wrote: "I could still rant about it!"

Haha... DM me then. I'll listen. :D


message 36: by Linden (new)

Linden Great review, Rosh. I usually like British police procedurals, but this one doesn't sound like something I'd enjoy.


message 37: by Kat (new)

Kat With an unlikable lead, it would be challenging to get a series off the ground! A fair and honest review, Rosh! 💗


message 38: by Rosh (new) - rated it 2 stars

Rosh Linden wrote: "Great review, Rosh. I usually like British police procedurals, but this one doesn't sound like something I'd enjoy."

Thanks, Linden! I too enjoy this genre, so this one was a great disappointment.


message 39: by Rosh (new) - rated it 2 stars

Rosh Kat (will try to catch up soon!) wrote: "With an unlikable lead, it would be challenging to get a series off the ground! A fair and honest review, Rosh! 💗"

Thanks, Kat! 💙 I think I am the only one who found her unlikeable, so there's still hope! 😄


message 40: by Pam (new)

Pam Baddeley Thanks for the tip off - have read rather a few poor crime novels lately including one read today where the ending totally tanked the book which was struggling anyway!


message 41: by Rosh (new) - rated it 2 stars

Rosh Pam wrote: "Thanks for the tip off - have read rather a few poor crime novels lately including one read today where the ending totally tanked the book which was struggling anyway!"

My pleasure! I too have had mostly average to below average thrillers lately. But nothing irks me as much as an infodump ending.


ReadAlongWithSue ★⋆. ࿐࿔ Some really great observations there Rosh


message 43: by Rosh (new) - rated it 2 stars

Rosh ReadAlongWithSue ★⋆. ࿐࿔ wrote: "Some really great observations there Rosh"

Thanks, Sue!


Sandysbookaday Thanks for your eloquent and honest review, Rosh. I'll stay away from this. 💖📚


Angela Although I enjoyed this one more than you did Rosh, you put forward a well reasoned, thoughtful and honest review, and I could certainly relate to a lot of your comments. I hope your current read is more to your liking! 🤗


message 46: by Cara (new)

Cara Great and honest review, Rosh💗!!!!!!!!!


message 47: by Rosh (new) - rated it 2 stars

Rosh Sandysbookaday wrote: "Thanks for your eloquent and honest review, Rosh. I'll stay away from this. 💖📚"

Thanks, Sandy! 💖 Many readers have enjoyed it as well, so you never know. :)


message 48: by Rosh (new) - rated it 2 stars

Rosh Angela wrote: "Although I enjoyed this one more than you did Rosh, you put forward a well reasoned, thoughtful and honest review, and I could certainly relate to a lot of your comments. I hope your current read i..."

Thanks so much, Angela! 💖 I am really happy that it clicked well for you. Every book deserves a happy reader. :)


message 49: by Rosh (new) - rated it 2 stars

Rosh Cara wrote: "Great and honest review, Rosh💗!!!!!!!!!"

Thanks much, Cara! 💖


message 50: by Chantel (new)

Chantel oh my gosh....everything you listed would have made me want to toss the book out the window. Kudos to you for making it through & writing such a thoughtful review, Rosh! You're really setting the standard out here :) xx


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