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Rising Out of Hatred by Eli Saslow
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How does a young rising star of the "white nationalist" movement, brought up immersed in a tight-knit family of white supremacists, come to realize that his "freedom of speech" and so-called rational ideas are hurtful to his fellow citizens, and eventually come to renounce and critique those past views? Washington Post writer Eli Saslow takes us on a fascinating journey, based on interviews with the subject himself, Derek Black; his father, Don Black, who had once been a KKK Grand Wizard and now a prominent blogger on "Stormfront"; along with various friends and acquaintances the younger black met at New College in Florida.

Derek Black was never some backward yokel. He was intelligent, well-educated, and ostensibly open-minded. When friends and colleagues at New College discovered his background, they were shocked, as Derek seemed such a reasonable, outgoing guy, completely fitting into their progressive college.

Perhaps this is what really worked in Derek's transition: although the majority of the campus shunned him and wanted him removed from their midst, a small group of friends, which included a small circle of Jews and Latin American immigrants that had already got to know Derek before he was "outed", did their best to continue to treat him as a friend. They didn't ostracize him, but kept a low-key friendship going. The Jewish group even invited him to their weekly Shabbat dinners! One young woman, Alison Gornick, started to get to know him better and better at these dinners and thought of Derek as salvageable--that calm rational discussion and debate of his ideas over time, would turn him around. Much to everyone's credit, it worked!

Perhaps this is not a strategy for every single racist, but I think every American concerned about race relations and the current tension in their country, much of it spurred on by the current occupant of the White House, should read this book. Folks need to realize that simply ostracizing, ridiculing, and belittling others whose views may be reprehensible to them does not usually work very well. Like Derek Black, much depends on the environment in which they are raised. If everyone in your family and extended social circle believes crazy stuff and you are totally immersed in it, it is most difficult to use rationality to think your way out of the very medium in which you and your loved ones live and breathe. Being called names and scorned doesn't really make you want to reach out to discover the viewpoints of the other side.

White nationalists are generally scared people, I believe. They see a way of life where their unacknowledged past-privilege of living in a great nation with tremendous wealth and resources must now be shared and distributed differently. Many of their familiar industries and jobs that go with them have been sent to the lowest bidder by faceless corporations. The world is a much smaller place due to international trade and social mobility, and the majority of people in it are not white-skinned but come from much different cultures. A knee-jerk reaction to such change is xenophobia, and in a sense that is understandable on one level.

It is not until we can feel somewhat safer in an expanded milieu and with the incredibly accelerating pace of change, that we can stop blaming the "other" amongst us. It is not until we learn more science and facts that we can see that there actually is no such thing as race. These are the conclusions to which Derek Black, the erstwhile superstar of white supremacy came after just a few years of being in that expanded milieu, with the guidance and support of a few people who cared about him as another person. Perhaps that is something valuable that the USA needs to learn right now.
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Darlene Terrific review, Ian! 😊 I had been anticipating your review of this book. As you know, I wasn't entirely convinced by Derek Black's miraculous transformation but I admit that that probably says more about me than it does about him. I'm naturally suspicious and pretty cynical when it comes to these sorts of personal transformations. I usually find them to be a bit convenient and out of necessity and I felt that way about Derek Black as well. I looked at this a bit differently from you... I thought that his sheltered background (growing up surrounded only by people who shared his beliefs in white supremacy) AND being an intelligent person, allowed hm to quickly reassess his situation once he discovered that outside of his comfort zone, many people in 'polite society' do not condone these sorts of attitudes and speech. That's why I viewed his radical change in attitude somewhat convenient. And I admit that I might be judging him too harshly and really, I have no right to judge him at all. I enjoyed reading your thoughts about this book. It certainly was interesting....


message 2: by Ian (last edited Dec 28, 2019 11:14PM) (new) - rated it 5 stars

Ian Beardsell Thanks, Darlene!
I had your skepticism in the back of my mind as I read the book, and of course I could be wrong, but I really did get the feeling that Derek Black made a genuine conversion from the dark side. I think Saslow really spent a lot of time interviewing him and his father, so he could get a sense of the duality that Derek struggled with and the pain and disappointment that Don must have felt as his son, the promising Messiah of white supremacy, betrayed his lifelong cause. Besides that, Derek (or should I say Roland) has written several op-ed pieces and given interviews re-affirming his conversion and warning against this warped movement, which has unfortunately become more prevalent since his departing it!
I really do think a significant number of these racists know deep down that it's wrong, but they are often trapped in a milieu that is self-sustaining. Add a dash of half-rational arguments based on some dodgy studies, and they can continuously convince themselves along with their peers that their chosen scapegoats are the most likely root of all social problems. It is not until they get out of their echo-chambers--and most importantly are not chased back into them--that they can get a different perspective. Derek Black deserves some kudos for rationally re-examining his arguments and using his innate intelligence for coming to new conclusions. Folks like Alison Gornik deserve kudos for noticing the good in such individuals (Black was slightly exceptional to begin with) and patiently supporting them in figuring things out for themselves. This is why I really do like the book as a 5-star: Eli Saslow has found a shred of hope of what could happen when both sides truly listen to what each other has to say! Another factor was that it read a bit like a thriller or mystery to me. I kept wondering, how is he going to come out of such a deeply entrenched world view? Is there one single event or just the continuing gentle guidance from Alison along with Derek's greater exposure to the real world?


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