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North and South
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"Pride and Prejudice" wouldn't have been a bad title for this comparative study of English society in the midst of the Industrial Revolution.
I must say that I was prejudiced against it before starting, and have to swallow my pride and admit I was wrong!
I thought it would be a dry copy cat version of Hard Times, as the circumstances of its publication seemed to suggest that. But never trust your prejudices - that is what I learned from reading this highly entertaining and original story, and it also constitutes the enduring message of the unfolding plot.
A clash of cultures in miniature, between the traditional life style and manners of the South, and the raw, harsh, booming manufacturer ways of the North, it offers plenty of opportunities to play on different layers of pride and prejudice. The charm lies in the fact that each social group has its own code of honour, and feels contempt towards all other groups within English society.
Margaret Hale and her parents, representing the South, despise the rough and straightforward behaviour of the rich and thrifty manufacturing people, and consider their education lacking and their company uninspiring.
The North, on the other hand, represented by Mr Thornton and his family, sees the South as lethargic, sponging, and useless, and admires its own masculine strength, wealth and action.
Both privileged classes, Northern and Southern alike, despise simple workers and their ideas, as well as servants and women in general. That is also reciprocal, and Elizabeth Gaskell brilliantly shows the arrogance and pride of workers, whose contempt for the manufacturers is just as strong as vice versa. Higgins, a passionate Unionist, takes pride in the organisation of a strike in exactly the same way that Thornton celebrates his ability to solve the issue to his own advantage.
Pride and prejudice - all over the place. The slowly developing love story is threatened by the same problem. Rather than speaking openly to each other, both Thornton and Margaret choose to make up their own (prejudiced) minds on the behaviour of the (unconsciously loved) antagonist, and to proudly refuse any clarification of ensuing misunderstandings- until the very end.
It sounds quite bleak, and the novel certainly does not paint mid-19th century life in idealistic colours, but Gaskell offers a solution to the social paralysis - on an individual level.
What breaks the barrier of prejudice? Knowledge! As soon as Margaret understands the life of the people in the mill town Milton, she learns to respect it. When Thornton and Unionist Higgins get to know each other, and spend time together, prejudice changes into mutual respect, based on true understanding of the other person's perspective. Knowledge and communication are the best weapons against prejudice - in the novel, and in real life.
And what destroys pride? Love. As soon as the characters realise they will lose what or whom they love, they are willing to overcome their pride and take a step outside their comfort zone. What Higgins refuses to do out of principle, he does out of love and compassion. And the same applies to Thornton and Margaret.
It is possible to argue that Gaskell doesn't find a general solution for the clash of interests during the Industrial Revolution, and that she relies on strong personalities to step outside their social boundaries and reach out rather than on creating a social idea that works independently. That was my first thought. But then I reconsidered, and thought that it is precisely individual enthusiasm and willingness to make a change that puts social development in motion. No idea, and no theory are worth anything without people with an open heart, who see humanity in people who are entirely different from their usual environment and social training.
True open mindedness starts with understanding the "other side" and with being curious to learn more about new perspectives.
Individual effort pays off - in the long run. That is a stimulating and positive message!
I must say that I was prejudiced against it before starting, and have to swallow my pride and admit I was wrong!
I thought it would be a dry copy cat version of Hard Times, as the circumstances of its publication seemed to suggest that. But never trust your prejudices - that is what I learned from reading this highly entertaining and original story, and it also constitutes the enduring message of the unfolding plot.
A clash of cultures in miniature, between the traditional life style and manners of the South, and the raw, harsh, booming manufacturer ways of the North, it offers plenty of opportunities to play on different layers of pride and prejudice. The charm lies in the fact that each social group has its own code of honour, and feels contempt towards all other groups within English society.
Margaret Hale and her parents, representing the South, despise the rough and straightforward behaviour of the rich and thrifty manufacturing people, and consider their education lacking and their company uninspiring.
The North, on the other hand, represented by Mr Thornton and his family, sees the South as lethargic, sponging, and useless, and admires its own masculine strength, wealth and action.
Both privileged classes, Northern and Southern alike, despise simple workers and their ideas, as well as servants and women in general. That is also reciprocal, and Elizabeth Gaskell brilliantly shows the arrogance and pride of workers, whose contempt for the manufacturers is just as strong as vice versa. Higgins, a passionate Unionist, takes pride in the organisation of a strike in exactly the same way that Thornton celebrates his ability to solve the issue to his own advantage.
Pride and prejudice - all over the place. The slowly developing love story is threatened by the same problem. Rather than speaking openly to each other, both Thornton and Margaret choose to make up their own (prejudiced) minds on the behaviour of the (unconsciously loved) antagonist, and to proudly refuse any clarification of ensuing misunderstandings- until the very end.
It sounds quite bleak, and the novel certainly does not paint mid-19th century life in idealistic colours, but Gaskell offers a solution to the social paralysis - on an individual level.
What breaks the barrier of prejudice? Knowledge! As soon as Margaret understands the life of the people in the mill town Milton, she learns to respect it. When Thornton and Unionist Higgins get to know each other, and spend time together, prejudice changes into mutual respect, based on true understanding of the other person's perspective. Knowledge and communication are the best weapons against prejudice - in the novel, and in real life.
And what destroys pride? Love. As soon as the characters realise they will lose what or whom they love, they are willing to overcome their pride and take a step outside their comfort zone. What Higgins refuses to do out of principle, he does out of love and compassion. And the same applies to Thornton and Margaret.
It is possible to argue that Gaskell doesn't find a general solution for the clash of interests during the Industrial Revolution, and that she relies on strong personalities to step outside their social boundaries and reach out rather than on creating a social idea that works independently. That was my first thought. But then I reconsidered, and thought that it is precisely individual enthusiasm and willingness to make a change that puts social development in motion. No idea, and no theory are worth anything without people with an open heart, who see humanity in people who are entirely different from their usual environment and social training.
True open mindedness starts with understanding the "other side" and with being curious to learn more about new perspectives.
Individual effort pays off - in the long run. That is a stimulating and positive message!
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Soo glad you liked this. You should watch the BBC adaptation, and don't feel bad if you also like it! ;P
Haven't read that Gaskell yet but thoroughly enjoyed the BBC adaptation. A very good review, Lisa and perfect reminder that I should read it too :)
Jan-Maat wrote: "So you're going to marry an industrialist and bring about his conversion then Lisa?"
Hmmm ... I found Thornton rather charming, but a bit wooden. I think my own cultural heritage is closer to his than to Margaret's though, so I identified better with his prejudices than with hers in the beginning.
There was something of Rhett Butler and Scarlett O'Hara over the story as well, and I think a bit of Rhett would have done Thornton some good.
Hmmm ... I found Thornton rather charming, but a bit wooden. I think my own cultural heritage is closer to his than to Margaret's though, so I identified better with his prejudices than with hers in the beginning.
There was something of Rhett Butler and Scarlett O'Hara over the story as well, and I think a bit of Rhett would have done Thornton some good.
Dolors wrote: "Soo glad you liked this. You should watch the BBC adaptation, and don't feel bad if you also like it! ;P"
Oh, I will! I have no doubt I will like it. I was strangely attracted to the whole story!
Oh, I will! I have no doubt I will like it. I was strangely attracted to the whole story!
Agnieszka wrote: "Haven't read that Gaskell yet but thoroughly enjoyed the BBC adaptation. A very good review, Lisa and perfect reminder that I should read it too :)"
Thank you so much! I am absolutely certain you will like the book! I will read another one of hers soon.
Thank you so much! I am absolutely certain you will like the book! I will read another one of hers soon.
It's fun to revisit books through your eyes, Lisa - you really shake them out and give them a thorough northern airing.
Hi Lisa, I enjoyed your play on words here (especially because I'm a Jane devotee!). I've seen the BBC production, which was well casted but had a rushed ending. Maybe your review will motivate me to read the book!
Fionnuala wrote: "It's fun to revisit books through your eyes, Lisa - you really shake them out and give them a thorough northern airing.
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I think that is a lovely way of putting it. We are very much for fresh, cool air in Sweden - as no other kind is available until mid-July :-)
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I think that is a lovely way of putting it. We are very much for fresh, cool air in Sweden - as no other kind is available until mid-July :-)
Julie wrote: "Hi Lisa, I enjoyed your play on words here (especially because I'm a Jane devotee!). I've seen the BBC production, which was well casted but had a rushed ending. Maybe your review will motivate me ..."
Thank you, Julie! I'll watch the series for sure.
Thank you, Julie! I'll watch the series for sure.
You've convinced me to reread a book yet again, Lisa. Time to notice the things you bring out; I read it too young or too long ago.
Caroline wrote: "You've convinced me to reread a book yet again, Lisa. Time to notice the things you bring out; I read it too young or too long ago."
I think we notice the things in books that we are concerned with at the moment. It resonated more with me than I had expected, and I will certainly explore Gaskell further. She came to me at the right time, striking a chord!
I think we notice the things in books that we are concerned with at the moment. It resonated more with me than I had expected, and I will certainly explore Gaskell further. She came to me at the right time, striking a chord!
Really enjoyed this review, Lisa! I do think Gaskell deserves to be much better known. I've been exploring her work recently, and I'd especially recommend Sylvia's Lovers and Wives and Daughters.
Mary Barton is interesting, too, as a precursor to North and South, dealing with the same social and political issues, though it's less accomplished as a novel.
Mary Barton is interesting, too, as a precursor to North and South, dealing with the same social and political issues, though it's less accomplished as a novel.
Issicratea wrote: "Really enjoyed this review, Lisa! I do think Gaskell deserves to be much better known. I've been exploring her work recently, and I'd especially recommend Sylvia's Lovers and [book:Wi..."
Thank you, Issicratea! I have Mary Barton at home, so I will start there, and I am excited to move on to the other two you suggest afterwards. I agree wholeheartedly: she is a discovery for me this year!
Thank you, Issicratea! I have Mary Barton at home, so I will start there, and I am excited to move on to the other two you suggest afterwards. I agree wholeheartedly: she is a discovery for me this year!
Another wonderful and thought-provoking review! You know, the subject matter reminded me of this great Heineken ad Jeffrey showed me a while ago. I think you'd like it:
https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/new-he...
Thanks! :)
https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/new-he...
Thanks! :)
Vessey wrote: "Another wonderful and thought-provoking review! You know, the subject matter reminded me of this great Heineken ad Jeffrey showed me a while ago. I think you'd like it:
https://www.linkedin.com/pu..."
Oh, thank you so much for sharing, Vessey, I do indeed like it a lot, and it fits the topic perfectly. It has a more modern touch, based on our current lifestyle, but mentions the same patterns!
https://www.linkedin.com/pu..."
Oh, thank you so much for sharing, Vessey, I do indeed like it a lot, and it fits the topic perfectly. It has a more modern touch, based on our current lifestyle, but mentions the same patterns!
Lisa...excellent review. Since time began, lack of understanding and ignorance has always been and will always be a deal breaker. It was nice to know that some of the principal characters were willing to set prejudices aside and think outside the box. Since you swallowed your pride by admitting that North and South was a 5 star read for you, I felt compelled to add it! Thank you!
Fran wrote: "Lisa...excellent review. Since time began, lack of understanding and ignorance has always been and will always be a deal breaker. It was nice to know that some of the principal characters were will..."
Oh, I am excited to hear you'll read it too, Fran! I bought another one of her novels that I'll start soon - Mary Barton. Hopefully my higher expectations do not sabotage my reading now...
Oh, I am excited to hear you'll read it too, Fran! I bought another one of her novels that I'll start soon - Mary Barton. Hopefully my higher expectations do not sabotage my reading now...
Pride and Prejudice is such a great book title ....... you would think that it would already be taken. Sounds like you warmed to this one. I have steered clear of it (and other similar books). Maybe I should give it a rethink.
Another outstanding review, Lisa! I have a book of Elizabeth Gaskell's short stories on my eReader and 4 of her novels, too, but this isn't one of them. I am now adding it! (And yes, I have a *lot* of reading to do! hahaha)
"I must say that I was prejudiced against it before starting, and have to swallow my pride and admit I was wrong!"
Clever, Lisa!
Clever, Lisa!
Ray wrote: "Pride and Prejudice is such a great book title ....... you would think that it would already be taken. Sounds like you warmed to this one. I have steered clear of it (and other similar books). Mayb..."
I was rather surprised that I liked it too, Ray, as I thought it would be a sentimental love story. But it is a social study, and I like the way she sees different angles of the same situation.
I was rather surprised that I liked it too, Ray, as I thought it would be a sentimental love story. But it is a social study, and I like the way she sees different angles of the same situation.
Jaline wrote: "Another outstanding review, Lisa! I have a book of Elizabeth Gaskell's short stories on my eReader and 4 of her novels, too, but this isn't one of them. I am now adding it! (And yes, I have a *lot*..."
I am sure she is perfect for you, Jaline! She will appeal both to your sense of justice and to your wish for a good, exciting plot and story!
I am sure she is perfect for you, Jaline! She will appeal both to your sense of justice and to your wish for a good, exciting plot and story!
Kevin wrote: ""I must say that I was prejudiced against it before starting, and have to swallow my pride and admit I was wrong!"
Clever, Lisa!"
Well, it's only clever if co-readers spot it - so the compliment goes straight back to you, Kevin!
Clever, Lisa!"
Well, it's only clever if co-readers spot it - so the compliment goes straight back to you, Kevin!
Elie wrote: "Is this book very political Lisa?"
Yes and no, Elie! It is a thorough social study, but very much driven by the strong characters and their love.
Yes and no, Elie! It is a thorough social study, but very much driven by the strong characters and their love.
What a great, comprehensive review. Thanks Lisa... this has been on my tbr shelf for ages... I will read it this year
Emma wrote: "What a great, comprehensive review. Thanks Lisa... this has been on my tbr shelf for ages... I will read it this year"
Thank you, Emma! Enjoy the novel!
Thank you, Emma! Enjoy the novel!