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Defeat by Philippe-Paul de Ségur
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A must for disaster junkies, fans of slow breakdown and group degeneration—anyone who can’t get enough of that horrible sorting which leaves some of the shipwrecked with their wits and capacity for teamwork, others with nothing but predacious urges and a callous despair. Also a plum if you like Romanticism. Once the retreat from Moscow begins, every page is a canvas of Delacroix or Géricault: pathetic calamities under exotic skies, in turbulent colors.* (Negligible cannibalism, which is a surprise, but there are cities in flames, emptied jails, starving plundering mobs; and Ségur does infant-clutching dashes across ice floes in the pitch dark better than Mrs. Stowe.) And “Bonaparte”—the British favored his surname, that of a swarthy stage villain if you imagine the Duke of Wellington’s pronunciation—is fascinating, better than all his Byronic copies and duplicates; grandiose in optimism and in fatalism, in paralysis and in combat; here an emperor sighing and sluggish amid his entourage, distracting himself with long dinners and pompous reviews in the courts of the Kremlin—as the first flakes fall—there a reinvigorated chieftain waving his sword and marching in the snow, rallying the Old Guard to fight a way through the blizzard and the Cossacks (though Ney is the hero, the conspicuous individual of the retreat).


Defeat is the graspable handle NYRB Classics has given this abridgement of General Philippe-Paul de Ségur’s Histoire de Napoléon et de la Grande-Armée pendant l’année 1812, published in 1824. In his original two volumes, Ségur interleaved tedious statistics and technical disquisitions in archaic military French with a vivid memoir of Napoleon and the Russian campaign that incensed hardcore Bonapartists. A few years after publication, Ségur fought and was wounded in a duel with another of the emperor’s former aides. I had to work to imagine this book as a scandalous takedown or tell-all. While Ségur did not think Napoleon a faultless demigod, he did see him among the Great Men, with exceptional (if fallible) powers of concentration and self-mastery, a majestic (though volatile) pride, and (usually) decisive timing; the hubristic human genius, in short; the hero fated to fall. And Ségur’s view of the Russian campaign as a clash of higher and lower civilizations is no less mythic, and really quite chauvinist. Russia was still the barbarous domain of superstition and slavery, whatever Napoleon’s political overreach and blunders in the field. Its greedy lords scorched the earth to keep Enlightenment from the priest-ridden, icon-bludgeoned serfs, and its generals resorted to guerilla tactics because cowed by the puissance of the Grande Armée. Ségur even calls the Russians the spectators, not the authors, of the army’s woe.


Ségur’s history/memoir was a major source of War and Peace (and of more obscure works by Chateaubriand and Hugo). It is a salute to Ségur’s dramatic craftsmanship that Tolstoy lifted whole scenes from the Histoire, even as he sought to correct the book’s Great Man bias and disdainful picture of the Russian people at war. It is a ridiculously entertaining narrative. I love that the action is a welter of insane shit, yet the style remains terse, sententious, and the figures classically posed—just the style you'd expect from a remnant of the old military nobility (as Louis XVI's Minister of War Ségur’s grandfather appointed a fifteen-year-old Napoleon to the École Militaire) and a writer whom Baudelaire, after visits among the grayhead Academicians, called a Romantic Tacitus, Xenophon with a glaze of le pathétique. I’m also grateful to Ségur for interesting me in War and Peace. That novel has never been high on my list of Tolstoy priorities, certainly far below Hadji Murad, The Death of Ivan Ilych, and a badly needed return to Anna Karenina; but now in bookstores I heft copies and sample translations, while wishing I had nothing to do but read.


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*To choose from literally hundreds of examples…Marshal Ney’s rearguard of the retreat, like the army as a whole, was a core of still-disciplined units marching in formation amidst a desperate horde of unarmed, leaderless stragglers scrambling about in unrecognizable tatters of uniforms. This is what happened when Ney was cut off and attacked:

Our unarmed stragglers, still numbering about three thousand, were terrified by the noise. This herd of men surged madly back and forth and rushed into the ranks of the soldiers, who beat them off. Ney succeeded in keeping them between himself and the enemy, whose fire the useless mass absorbed. Thus the timid served as a protection for the brave. Making a rampart of those poor wretches for his right flank, the marshal moved backward toward the Dnieper, which became a cover for his left.



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Started Reading
July 1, 2011 – Finished Reading
July 6, 2011 – Shelved (Hardcover Edition)
July 6, 2011 – Shelved
July 9, 2011 –
page 46
15.92% "Does Werner Herzog do audiobooks? "So long as he had encountered kings, their defeat had been child's play. But all the kings were beaten, and now he had to deal with the people. This was another Spain, but a Spain remote, barren, endless, that he had found on the opposite end of Europe. He hesitated, uncertain as how to proceed, and came to a halt.""
July 11, 2011 –
page 141
48.79% "The retreat begins: "...crowds of men of all nations, without weapons and uniforms, and lackeys swearing in a Babel of tongues and urging on with threats and blows tiny ponies harnessed with rope to elegant carriages loaded with food or plunder that had been saved from the fire...a caravan, a nomadic horde, or one of those armies of antiquity laden with spoils and slaves, returning from some dreadful destruction.""
July 22, 2011 – Shelved as: hearts-laid-bare
July 22, 2011 – Shelved as: history
July 22, 2011 – Shelved as: lurid
July 22, 2011 – Shelved as: massacres
July 22, 2011 – Shelved as: war
October 13, 2018 – Shelved as: memoir

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message 1: by Hazel (new)

Hazel Very appealing...


message 2: by [deleted user] (new)

Welter of insane shit....such a great phrase...

I'm banging my bowl and shouting Ilych! Ilych! Ilych! A most manageable Tolstoy, and so great. He seems to get, though possibly accidentally, how comic his who serf-lovery schtick looks from certain angles. And bureaucracy! Nobody can write about bureaucracy like the Russians.

Also, I had this friend once - who is not secretly me - who dropped acid and read War and Peace in a weekend - straight through. She thought it was fantastic that way, but then she's an honest to god aging hippy. Don't do drugs, kids.


Eric Mispelling/mistransliteration corrected!

Oh Tolstoyan serf-love! The muscular bare calves of peasant girls spattered with spring mud! The meadow-mowing in Anna Karenina, with aristocratic Levin gettin' all sweaty alongside the peasants, might be the most erotically charged scene in the book.


message 4: by Szplug (last edited Jul 22, 2011 10:03AM) (new)

Szplug Great review, Eric. Makes me kinda excited for Tolstoy's Big War Mama too. One of these days...

while wishing I had nothing to do but read.

Ah, 'tis a dream I share—but the people who regularly send me bills just won't accommodate me on this.


message 5: by Eric (last edited Jul 22, 2011 10:13AM) (new) - rated it 4 stars

Eric Thanks Chris! Yeah for some reason, one I can't begin to explain, Napoleon's invasion is a crisis of Russian history that has never hooked me until just now. And I love crises of Russian history! Nothing better than a book that leads to other, incomprehensibly ignored books!


message 6: by [deleted user] (new)

Oh, Christ, I wasn't challenging your spelling - I cannot spell, and that was just the first way it came out - I was telling you to read it!!!

There's this great scene in Ilych where the dying Ivan...no, I will not ruin it for you. Just serf-o-erotic like crazy though.


Eric Dying...erotic...hmmm...la petite mort before le grande?


message 8: by Tom (last edited Jul 23, 2011 04:55PM) (new)

Tom Isn't there a recent history of le grande retreat published to some applause? Can't remember title or author (not much bloody help, eh) but as I recall number of reviewers cited Segur as point of comparison (favorably) and/or source.

Anyway, love the Gericault comparison -- very evocative and insightful.

Surprised to hear that Baudelaire was so well read in Tacitus and Xenophon. Ah that classic Lit Arts education. (now there's an evocative image -- Baudelaire puffing a pipe of hashish while reading account of Roman slaughter by German tribes in Teutorborg(?) Forest.

Dominic Lieven's Russia Against Napoleon -- that's the one,I believe ...


Eric Baudelaire puffing a pipe of hashish while reading account of Roman slaughter by German tribes in Teutorborg(?) Forest.

Love this! Baudelaire reading Tacitus: so mordant and tenebrous a pair! Makes me think of the spooky opening lines of "The Voice":

Above my cradle loomed the bookcase where
Latin ashes and the dust of Greece
mingled with novels, history, and verse
in one dark Babel. I was folio-high
when I first heard the voices.


Dominic Lieven's Russia Against Napoleon -- that's the one,I believe ...

Which looks so exciting! I've read that Lieven goes beyond the retreat, and recounts Russia's massive contribution to the Allies' 1814 triumph (Ségur actually throttles back his talk of Russian primitivism when reminding his readers that the Russians were much better behaved in Paris than the French were in Moscow).


message 10: by Nick (new) - rated it 5 stars

Nick Black tom, i assume you've seen minard's napoleon? http://mbostock.github.com/protovis/e... visualization engineer extraordinaire edward tufte calls it the best visualization of all time.


message 11: by Tom (new)

Tom Negative, Nick, but will check it out asap. Thanks!


message 12: by Tom (new)

Tom "Folio-high" -- what a marvelous phrase, Eric. None of my B. editions include this poem. Most glad to have it.

If I might extend the Tacitusian influence on modern poets, I recommend Frank Bidart's "The Return," about Germanicus's return to Teutorborg to bury Varus. (can't find an online copy, but it's in Bidart's collection Desire. He catches mood of Tacitus quite nicely.





Eric wrote: "Baudelaire puffing a pipe of hashish while reading account of Roman slaughter by German tribes in Teutorborg(?) Forest.

Love this! Baudelaire reading Tacitus: so mordant and tenebrous a pair! Make..."



message 13: by Eric (last edited Jul 26, 2011 03:55PM) (new) - rated it 4 stars

Eric Richard Howard's translation. And thanks for Bidart's poem.

I have returned here a thousand times,
though history cannot tell us its location.


So good! And these made me think back to Napoleon's invasion, and the French view of Russians as barbarians:

Arminius, relentlessly pursued by
Germanicus, retreated into pathless country


As the retreating Bructeri began to burn their own
possessions, to deny the Romans every sustenance but
ashes...


Like Cassius, Germanicus might have cried: How many ages hence shall this our lofty scene be acted over, in states unborn and accents yet unknown!


message 14: by Luke (new) - added it

Luke This review is too good for goodreads...


message 15: by Eric (new) - rated it 4 stars

Eric Thanks Luke, you're too kind!


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