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The End of Faith by Sam Harris
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Read 2 times. Last read April 20, 2017 to May 1, 2017.

2017 Review:
I read Sam Harris’s The End of Faith: Religion, Terror and the Future of Reason probably 10 years ago and remember disagreeing with his views on Islam. I decided to read it again because my views have changed over the years and I wanted to reacquaint myself with this book.

I’m not going to summarize all the points Harris makes regarding religion. Overall, his view is that religion is a negative, it’s not helpful to anyone, and in order for society to progress we need to abandon its archaic and outdated dogmas. Although I am not a militant atheist, I agree with that. Even “moderate” religious views still negatively affect how we define and deliver health care, administer our legal system, mete out punishments, educate our children and how we conduct foreign policy. Moderate religious views do nothing to stop religious extremism because, from the point of view of the extremist, “the religious moderate is nothing more than a failed fundamentalist” (20). Harris continues to say that religious moderates “don’t like the personal and social costs that a full embrace of scripture imposes on us. This is not a new form of faith, or even a new species of scriptural exegesis; it is simply a capitulation to a variety of all-too-human-interests that have nothing, in principle, to do with God. Religious moderation is the product of secular knowledge and scriptural ignorance--and it has no bona fides, in religious terms, to put in on a par with fundamentalism” (21).

What struck me when reading the book this time was the realization that I, as an atheist, do not need to justify my non-belief in the supernatural. It’s often been demanded of me by believers that I justify my atheism. But it should be the other way around. My atheism is a rational, reasonable, logical response to the world and the knowledge we have accumulated about it. Belief in a supernatural omniscient, omnipotent, merciful god, with no proof other than a 1,000+ year old translations of scriptures (which cannot be traced back to their original sources) written by a variety of authors, seems weird. Why worship a Christian god? Why not pick from one of the Egyptian gods? Or Greek gods? If you’re going for old and unsubstantiated, there are thousands to pick from. It makes more sense to me to worship the sun. At least it’s there. It’s reliable. Its heat and light give us life.

What I disagreed with from my previous reading was Harris’s view that Islam is the cause of 9/11 and all other acts of terrorism perpetrated by Muslims. My knowledge of America’s destructive Middle East policies was greater than my knowledge of Islam and my view was that terrorism was perpetrated for both political and religious reasons. Many years later, after extensive research, I no longer disagree with Harris. Islam offers very little recourse for believers to fully embrace the idea of peaceful relationships with unbelievers. There is no separation of politics and religion—the two are intertwined. However, I reject the idea that Muslims, as a whole, are a violent people. There are moderate Muslims and I think it’s very important that they are supported as much as possible, particularly when they point out the shortcomings of their own religion. But Harris’s point from above about moderates still holds—moderation comes from disregarding/discarding the more extremist/inconvenient scriptures and allowing secular knowledge to inform your views of the world. Moderation is a secular choice and the Koran does not allow for much in the way of individual choices regarding scriptural interpretation.

In his chapter, “A Science of Good and Evil,” Harris raises an interesting point: why are the deaths of innocent civilians in war acceptable, but torturing an enemy soldier unacceptable? Both are immoral and unethical, yet we consider civilian deaths to be part of the costs of war, “collateral damage,” but the torture of one (probable) bad guy for necessary information to be worse: “If we are willing to act in a way that guarantees the misery and death of some considerable number of innocent children, why spare the rod with suspected terrorists?” (194) Neither are acceptable, but Harris does make a convincing (if unappealing) logical argument for torture. He suggests that we accept this disparity because, emotionally, “killing people at a distance is easier” (196). Let me be clear that Harris is not an enthusiastic supporter of torture; he is merely trying to explain that our ethical arguments against torture are an illusion: if we are unwilling to torture, we should also be unwilling to wage war.

I disagree with Harris’s stance on pacifism, which he calls “flagrantly immoral.” He lumps all conflicts into one large category and says that violence, or the threat of violence, is an ethical necessity when responding to enemies. He then spends two pages relating a story about how he managed to extract a woman from a possibly violent situation without any harm coming to himself, the woman, or the aggressors. While I thought he acted intelligently, he says what he did was an act of moral failure because he lied to avoid a physical confrontation and did not confront the men regarding their poor ethical choices. Since he did not confront them, they did not learn that their behavior was immoral. I rolled my eyes when I read this. If these guys thought that perhaps kidnapping this woman/threatening her with violence was perfectly okay, did Harris really think they would stand about and intently listen as he lectured them about their ethical choices? And (better yet) agree with him? All he would have accomplished was getting himself beat up and the woman possibly raped. In his view, he was acting as a pacifist and that means acting immorally because no one learned a lesson in ethics. I find this ridiculous. Harris does not differentiate between pacifism and civil disobedience, but does mention Gandhi and that Gandhi’s pacifism worked for his situation, but wouldn’t have been a successful tactic against Nazis. Well, no one says it is. However, there’s a difference between saying “I’m a pacifist and I refuse to take another human life so I’ll just sit this one out” and “I’m a pacifist and I refuse to take a human life but I’ll help our cause by becoming a medic or an ambulance driver or a mechanic.” Harris believes that violence must be met with more violence. It’s possible he means specifically just in case of war, but his own example indicates he does not. This commentary on pacifism was rather brief and not well reasoned. There are many kinds of conflicts and ways of responding to those conflicts. Violence is not always the smartest answer.

His least successful chapter is the last one: “Experiments in Consciousness.” It was a lot of discussion of consciousness, what is consciousness, what makes up our sense of self, and how we can expand our consciousness (he advocates for Eastern spirituality/philosophy). While mostly interesting, I can understand why Harris received a lot of complaints from readers (apparently most of the complainers are closed-minded atheists who freaked out at the idea of being spiritual). The chapter is kind of weird and out of place. I personally didn’t care for it either. Not because I’m against the idea of atheist spirituality (it’s very possible to be both), it’s just I don’t think he did a great job of presenting the material, plus it felt more like an excuse to bring up his thing, which is apparently Eastern mysticism.

The notes to the chapters are extensive and well worth glancing through. He has some very interesting comments hidden away there, along with other good books to read on the topics he discussed. Harris also apparently now has podcasts to go along with this book. I have not listened to them yet, but if I find they complement my reading of the book, I’ll update this review with that information. In this paperback edition, Harris includes an afterword that responds to some of the comments and questions he received after publishing the original hardcover edition. Earlier in the book, Harris discusses extensively the idea of faith and how believers, before resorting to faith, find reasons (even if these reasons are weak) to support their religious beliefs. He summarizes that discussion in a paragraph that perfectly describes my feelings about religious faith, but says it much better than I can. I’m quoting it here in its entirety:
As I do my best to spell out over the course of the book, religious faith is the belief in historical and metaphysical propositions without sufficient evidence. When the evidence for a religious proposition is thin or nonexistent, or there is compelling evidence against it, people invoke faith. Otherwise, they simply cite the reasons for their beliefs (e.g., “the New Testament confirms Old Testament prophecy,” “I saw the face of Jesus in a window,” “We prayed, and our daughter’s cancer went into remission”). Such reasons are generally inadequate, but they are better than no reasons at all. People of faith naturally recognize the primacy of reasons and resort to reasoning whenever they possibly can. Faith is simply the license they give themselves to keep believing when reasons fail. When rational inquiry supports the creed it is championed; when it poses a threat, it is derided; sometimes in the same sentence. Faith is the mortar that fills the cracks in the evidence and the gaps in the logic, and thus it is faith that keeps the whole terrible edifice of religious certainty still looming dangerously over our world (233).


Original Review:
Thought-provoking book. I found his arguments against organized religion very persuasive, even if I'm not sure I completely agree with him. When debating what causes terrorism (politics or religion) he comes down hard on the side of religion. I think it is a mixture of the two. I bought this book so I could re-read it because it is certainly a subject deserving of much debate. I didn't like his last chapter on meditation and etc. I thought that was a little fruity and out of place. If you have any interest at all in religion and its impact on the world, read this book.
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Reading Progress

Started Reading
November 26, 2007 – Finished Reading
September 30, 2010 – Shelved
September 30, 2010 – Shelved as: non-fiction
April 17, 2013 – Shelved as: my-book
April 17, 2013 – Shelved as: religion-and-philosophy
April 20, 2017 – Started Reading
April 20, 2017 –
page 25
7.18% "Reading again because some of my views about Islam have changed so I want to re-examine what Harris says on the topic."
April 23, 2017 –
page 51
14.66%
April 24, 2017 –
page 80
22.99%
April 26, 2017 –
page 129
37.07%
April 28, 2017 –
page 170
48.85% "So far, Sam Harris is as sensible now as he was the first time I read this book (about 10 years ago?)."
April 29, 2017 –
page 193
55.46% "I'm trying to power read thru this, which is not smart. It's a lot of material to pound into my brain in a week, but this is a second reading, so I thought it would be easier. It's not."
May 1, 2017 – Finished Reading

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message 1: by [deleted user] (new)

What struck me when reading the book this time was the realization that I, as an atheist, do not need to justify my non-belief in the supernatural.

This is when I hear Hitchens in my head saying, "Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence." :P Seems to me the extraordinary claim is that there is a God, not that there isn't one. But the churchies don't see it that way.

I wish Harris would get back to his annotated chapter readings of this for his podcasts. He's only done two, but I think he's gotten distracted. He needs to stay off Twitter and getting involved in spats with his detractors. They're convinced he's a racist imperialist Devil anyway and cherry pick his every utterance, so let 'em rot, I say.


Kristina Coop-a-Loop Karla wrote: "What struck me when reading the book this time was the realization that I, as an atheist, do not need to justify my non-belief in the supernatural.

This is when I hear Hitchens in my head saying, ..."


It seems fairly obvious when Hitchens said it, but I never really got that until reading Harris's chapter again. It was like: duh. I think I get so used to playing the defensive that I forget *I'm* the sensible one, the one who doesn't believe in magic, merely because that's what you do in America: you, by default, believe the magical crap you've been hearing since you emerged from a vagina. None of it holds up to close examination, but when you say that, the believer says, "Ah, but that's why you have faith." Then I pop a blood vessel because that's such a dumb ass thing to say. That's the equivalent of putting your hands over your ears and screaming "LA LA LA LA LA" to drown out reason.

He's only done two podcasts of this book? Well, at least I can catch up quickly then. If he's battling with idiots on Twitter (I don't have Twitter), he should stop. Why bother trying to please or reason with unreasonable people? I would yell that at Obama all the time whenever he would start yammering on about having consensus with the Republicans and trying to work with them. You moron, Mr. President. They hate you and have said they're whole mission is to stand in your way. Screw'em and move on. Harris needs to do that: screw'em and move on.


message 3: by [deleted user] (last edited May 03, 2017 05:42AM) (new)

I think Harris really got thrown for a loop during this past election when he discovered that a disconcertingly large portion of his fanbase were Pepe-memeing Trumpers who harassed him mercilessly to abandon his caveat-filled support of Clinton and just go full-Trump. He was probably wondering just WTF he's conveyed knowingly or not to attract that kind of emotionally-stunted, shit-posting, anarchic, world-burning for the lolz mindset. Seems like Harris' similar attitude towards Islamic terrorism & a dislike of SJWs was grounds enough for these people to demand he be pro-Trump. So he was getting it from all sides for the past year+ and IDK if many public figures tied into social media can completely disengage from the temptation of being baited when under such relentless duress.

And then there's the "race realists" who are a subgroup of the atheist community at large (as well as the religious right). They've demanded that Harris just admit he's one of them.

It was funny, though, to watch the Pepe-memers demonstrate, with every thing that one of their "heroes" said or did that they didn't agree with, that they turned into the same whingeing, defensive, tribal snowflakes running for their hug box that they accuse all those social justice warriors of being. >:D


Kristina Coop-a-Loop Karla wrote: "I think Harris really got thrown for a loop during this past election when he discovered that a disconcertingly large portion of his fanbase were Pepe-memeing Trumpers who harassed him mercilessly ..."

It is disconcerting that as soon as you admit to the notion that Islamic terrorism is yes, terrorism fueled by Islam, right-wingers think you are ONE OF THEM and want you to join in the hate. Subtlety and complex thoughtfulness is not their strong suit. I can understand why Harris would be surprised & horrified by this and has a difficult time resisting the siren call of defending/clarifying his statements. And if he can't do that, then calling them out on their hateful stupidity.

I spent the last few days in Virginia at a gathering of old friends (not mine, my husband's) to celebrate the retirement of an Air Force career guy. While no one was outright right-wing, chest-thumping Trump-supporting, and the vibe was clearly in that direction. At one point, there was a discussion criticizing Colin Kaepernick's refusal to stand for the national anthem, which led to how racism doesn't exist. A bunch of white men sitting around saying that racism doesn't exist...wow. The irony of this was completely lost on them. Later that same night an obnoxious woman was bitching about something but then congratulated herself on the idea that at least she didn't need to go home and hold a puppy and cry about being offended like certain groups of people did. I wanted to smack her, esp. since she did that thing I hate, taking a non-political discussion and turning it political by saying something insulting and nasty. Republicans have been whining and calling themselves victims for years. They are the biggest babies around, led by their President Big Baby.


message 5: by [deleted user] (new)

It takes nothing for that ilk to badger someone to just admit they're a member of the tribe. They're so desperate for legitimacy that they'll gladly shanghai anyone who says anything that can be twisted to support their views.

I'm glad I don't socialize because I like avoiding situations like that. LOL The decision to call them out or not is a tricky line to tread. I usually leave it to email when I get obviously biased articles and I read the cited hyperlinks that give way more context and reply with a "Hey, if you click through to the original story, you'll see that the writer was feeding a line of bullshit. Not really nice of 'em, is it?" :P


Kristina Coop-a-Loop Karla wrote: "It takes nothing for that ilk to badger someone to just admit they're a member of the tribe. They're so desperate for legitimacy that they'll gladly shanghai anyone who says anything that can be tw..."

Yes, they will. Especially if that someone is an atheist liberal.

I usually try to avoid socializing, but this was unavoidable. I didn't call them out for 2 reasons: 1) the conversation didn't last long. The "racism is a scam" comments were directed primarily at Kaepernick, who, as a successful black athlete, apparently isn't subjected to racism and 2) I was a guest in their house and didn't want to start shit with people I may never see again. If the comments had gotten really offensive (as opposed to just eye-rolling wtf nonsense), I probably would have waded in. As it was, they certainly would not have thought of themselves as racists and would have been surprised if I had called them out.

Not commenting was a actually a good move on my part because even though I spent 2 days with these people and basically acted like myself and found them (mostly) likeable and decent people and got along with them, the guest of honor (Air Force retiree) assumed I was on "their" side of the political spectrum--even though 99.9% of the conversations were non-political and more along the lines of "remember when we were in Germany and that dumb guy did that dumb thing...where is he now?" I found that fascinating--that they assumed I was a right-winger, even though I had said nothing to give that impression, nor had any of the conversations (aside from the minor Kaepernick talk) been political. They just assumed because I apparently--what? was able to mostly enjoy my time with them and like them?--that I agreed with them? What a fucked up notion of people. I'd say social media (in the form of partisan & divisive "news" links) and Faux News has really destroyed/hastened the destruction of the idea that we're all Americans and have to work together. We view each other as the enemy and that's just nuts.


message 7: by Jessaka (new)

Jessaka Excellent review.


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