Talk:Rappin' for Jesus

A recently added 'Actors' section relies predominantly on unreliable sources and original research and is borderline BLP. I've removed it from the article and left it below in case anyone wants to modify it with actual reliable sources or use it to pursue said reliable sources if they exist.

It is currently unknown who Pastor Jim Colerick and the sound man in the video are; however, on June 2, 2020, Reddit user "icecapade" made a post stating that they recognized the actor playing Mary Sue Colerick.^[1] After icecapade did a little research, they found that Mary Sue Colerick was actually an actor named Elizabeth Ince. Elizabeth can be found on IMDb where she is known for acting in several films including "The Encounter" (2011), "Public Access" (1993), and "Able Edwards" (2004).^[2] Ince also has a Facebook account that has been active since 2009, predating the Rappin' for Jesus music video. Ince's IMBd does not include Rappin' for Jesus but an old LA Casting resume did. This resume was connected to Ince's Facebook, but the page can no longer be found.^[3]</nowiki>

In the meantime, this should not be reinstated to the main article. TheTechnician27 (Talk page) 04:08, 7 December 2020 (UTC)Reply

All I hear in this article is that it's a hoax, that it uses the n-word badly, so I don't think we should remove that, but instead also try to find positive feedback to the song. 78.71.227.34 (talk) 06:06, 9 May 2021 (UTC)Reply

Hi @78.71.227.34, Wikipedia's neutrality point of view policy is that Wikipedia articles should neutrally summarize majority viewpoints as described in reliable sources. The policy isn't that we should seek out positive and negative sources - that just creates a false balance. I'm going to remove the template for now, but if you find other reliable sources with another viewpoint, please do update this article. Or if you find this article doesn't accurately represent what's said in the current sources, then add the tag back. POLITANVM ^talk 20:57, 9 May 2021 (UTC)Reply

They seem to be in good faith, but Wikipedia is not censored. I can't revert these edits; it says that they're "unconstructive" ??? So block this user from vandalising the article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.17.95.143 (talk) 03:05, 2 June 2022 (UTC)Reply

A Reddit post (and visual evidence such as Street View) identified the church in the photo as Grace Chapel aka Bedminster Reformed Church, Bedminster / Far Hills, NJ. Keith D. Tyler ¶ 08:48, 5 February 2024 (UTC)Reply

In my experience, neither one of those sources are particularly reliable. Wait for news stories to be made about it. ✶Quxyz✶ 12:00, 5 February 2024 (UTC)Reply

This is original research. Reddit is user-generated so anyone can write anything on it. — Bilorv (talk) 09:14, 11 February 2024 (UTC)Reply

I have provided reasonable evidence, including the obituary of one of the actors featured in the video. Why is this not allowed on this page? - 1zdoqnrh5 11:25, 21 September 2024 (UTC)Reply

@1zdoqnrh5: An obituary written by a funeral home is not a reliable source because it is not subject to any editorial review; it's essentially a blog post. Please see WP:obituaries. IMDb is a user-generated source and thus also not reliable. Please see WP:IMDb. I understand your frustration, as this is a kind of annoying situation: The evidence gathered by people online is pretty compelling, and it's significantly more likely than not that these people are who you say they are. However, Wikipedia policy is clear that we need reliable sources here, particularly because one of the people involved is still living. It's more important that we be definitely right than that we be complete. -- Tamzin^{[cetacean needed]} (they|xe) 10:33, 21 September 2024 (UTC)Reply