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The Final Empire by Brandon Sanderson
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Reading Mistborn felt strangely similar to watching a big-budget Hollywood action movie. Don’t get me wrong; I probably watch more action movies than any other kind. It is just that I associate them with generally iconic characterization, streamlined storytelling and a certain lack of emotional complexity. Although that may sound negative, it doesn’t have to be. Action movies are ideal for mindless fun and escapism. Personally, I also find them well-suited to exercising on the elliptical, their plot tension and violence adding inspiration for my own exertion. Besides, it’s hard to hear dialogue over the fan.

The aspect of action movies that tends to annoy (sometimes even when done well) is the emotional manipulation of the viewer, who is usually given only one interpretation about the plot or characters. Good comes with a capital ‘G’ and the Bad Guys are usually sneering. When I finished Mistborn, my reaction was strangely similar to watching an action flick: satisfaction with resolution of a fast-paced ending and a quickly fading impression of a genre book.

This was my gut feeling, but having no clear detail I could point to, I went looking across the internet for insight into Sanderson’s writing. What I discovered is that he writes a great deal about writing, even to the extent of creating ‘laws’ about how to write well (he explains these as guidelines for self, not necessarily for others). To wit:

Sanderson’s First Law is that “An author’s ability to solve conflict satisfactorily with magic is directly proportional to how well the reader understands said magic.” (Post, “Sanderson’s First Law“.

Sanderson’s Second Law is “Limitations > Powers“and the Third Law is that a writer should “Expand what you already have before you add something new.”

Suddenly, my reading experience made sense. I wasn’t particularly engaged in the emotion of the books, but rather the resolution of plotting in a well-realized world. Would Vin join the resistance or wouldn’t she? But because Sanderson operates so consistently along archetypical lines, the conclusion was forgone; what remained was discovering the details getting there. Like Terry Brooks’ Sword of Shannara, evil is Destined to Fail, along with Selfishness for Personal Glory. But don’t worry–Selflessness will be Rewarded.

The responses of other enthusiastic readers also made sense in context of story type. Sanderson’s insistence on a well-structured magical system and his process of building it into the story is key for many of his readers. If you note anything in common in Sanderson reviews, it is that readers almost uniformly praise the thoughtful completeness of the magical system. Furthermore, I suspect that is the detail of his world-building also makes his fantasy accessible for a wide variety of readers.

So, specifics. Characters remain iconic. The removed mentor who guides a group. His estranged brother. The orphan with suspiciously strong powers. A book-reading noble who realizes the system is unfair but is unable to act. That said, the detail surrounding each was done well enough that they didn’t feel overly simplified. Vin, the heroine, was by far my favorite character and the most thoroughly fleshed out, but she tested my patience (or more specifically, Sanderson did) with reinforcing her wariness with every action for the first third of the book, and then her evolution from ugly duckling to society swan in the second third.

Plotting was acceptable. A slow start to guarantee through world-building, it started to take better shape when Vin and Kelsier meet. While the plot largely revolves around Vin’s growth, it is also a little bit of a heist-type alliance, which does strange things to the pacing. The heist, for instance, takes months to build as they ‘get people into place,’ which includes inserting Vin into high society. Given the length of time it takes, it is surprising there aren’t more contingency plans for when things start to go wrong (as they do, in almost every instance).

I find myself contemplating my own laws of reading (subject to be broken at any time): #1: Interesting language will keep your reader returning.
#2: Well-developed characters will keep your readers interested even when plotting doesn’t.

There wasn’t a lot of emotional complexity for me in the characterization or the plotting. Language was middle of the road, occasionally soaring, and occasionally bordering on repetitive. Personally, I’ve been reading fantasy long enough that I look for language, characterization and ideas as much as plotting when I’m evaluating books. Honestly, it feels a little mechanical and a little too deliberate–like Sanderson took his magical idea, coupled it with a couple of archetypical myths, padded it with standard genre expectations, and expected accolades. While it may make a blockbuster, it doesn’t quite work–more elliptical-worthy than personal library-worthy.


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Reading Progress

May 28, 2011 – Shelved
October 19, 2013 – Started Reading
October 29, 2013 – Finished Reading

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message 1: by [deleted user] (new)

Very excited to see what you make of this. I found it to be the strongest of the trilogy, even though Sanderson's writing is annoyingly wooden.


message 2: by [deleted user] (new)

One warning though. Brandon Sanderson loves to describe women's fashion. I don't know why, but he just does.


carol. (not getting notifications) Jocelyn wrote: "One warning though. Brandon Sanderson loves to describe women's fashion. I don't know why, but he just does."

No! A crowning sign of chick-lit.


Jamie (JK) Sanderson has an amazing ability to make you think you are reading about different characters and stories... Really though, they're all the same. He's got his formula and he is sticking to it.


And this sucker has fallen for that formula. >_<


Mimi JK wrote: "Sanderson has an amazing ability to make you think you are reading about different characters and stories... Really though, they're all the same. He's got his formula and he is sticking to it.
..."


Agree. He has created a series of tropes of his own. It took me a couple of books to see the patterns, but once I did, I became bored shortly afterward. Or maybe it was because I'd read one too many Sanderson books in a short amount of time.


message 6: by Michael (new)

Michael Would love a link to finish reading the review.


carol. (not getting notifications) Oh yes, Michael, soon as I write it. I got distracted finishing up an old Claire Dewitt one that had been waiting for inspiration.


Arsalaan LaFleur Looking forward to reading this review...


Lata "...Vin, the heroine, was by far my favorite character and the most thoroughly fleshed out, but she tested my patience (or more specifically, Sanderson did) with reinforcing her wariness with every action for the first third of the book...," Argh! It's not just me who's fed up by this!!


carol. (not getting notifications) I really don't enjoy his writing. I think it's often too mechanical for me.


message 11: by Sharon (new)

Sharon I don't know why, but your line, "plotting was acceptable" made me LOL.


carol. (not getting notifications) I know, right? It's what I say when I don't know how to not damn it with faint praise :D


Beyond Birthday "... I also find them well-suited to exercising on the elliptical, their plot tension and violence adding inspiration for my own exertion. Besides, it’s hard to hear dialogue over the fan."

:D :D :D
Tee hee!


carol. (not getting notifications) :D Although for good shows, I use subtitles :)


message 15: by Caro (new) - added it

Caro the Helmet Lady Great review. :) Are you willing to read the next ones?


carol. (not getting notifications) I did read #2, but rated it lower. I just find Sanderson too mechanical in this series, and too tropey. Add to a general lackluster attitude towards traditional fantasy these days, and I doubt I'll gt to #3.


message 17: by Beth (new) - rated it 3 stars

Beth I still have no idea why these well-aged reviews pop up in my feed, but this was a good one! And also highlights some of the minor issues with the one book-and-change of Sanderson's that I've read. Another reviewer called him "workmanlike" and I think that's accurate. Tightly planned and highly marketable, transparently so. Your action-movie analogy is apt.


message 18: by carol. (not getting notifications) (last edited Apr 11, 2017 10:04AM) (new) - rated it 3 stars

carol. (not getting notifications) This one was because Lata was reading it and commented, Beth. :)
I think depending on your tolerance/interest in traditional fantasy will determine your reaction to Sanderson. I think Mimi hit on it above, although she did like the book.


message 19: by Lata (new) - rated it 3 stars

Lata Yup, it's my fault this review became current! : )
I'm still slowly slogging through the book, and it's still not miraculously intriguing me. I feel a bit like I should give this book a chance, though I may well chuck it by the end of today...


carol. (not getting notifications) Honestly, not worth it for me. Of all the books of his I've tried, I most liked The Alloy of Law. The Way of Kings was good but needed serious editing. Aside from Alloy, I've mostly found them predictable, only moderately interesting characters and generally a little boring.


Val ⚓️ Shameless Handmaiden ⚓️ "Reading Mistborn felt strangely similar to watching a big-budget Hollywood action movie."

OMG, TOTALLY! I felt the same way. Great review!


carol. (not getting notifications) Thank you! Some times, that's just what one wants in a book, right?


Val ⚓️ Shameless Handmaiden ⚓️ Carol. wrote: "Thank you! Some times, that's just what one wants in a book, right?"

Absolutely!


Erica I.... I'm no longer sure I wish to review this book. Your review said everything I had yet to formulate to myself and now I feel a void inside me (as well as a smudge jealousy directed at your own writing skill).


carol. (not getting notifications) Erica, what a compliment! Thank you, and glad I could help. It's been a journey for me, trying to understand why I have this general irritation with Sanderson, and I think I figured out some of it for this review.


message 26: by Beyond Birthday (last edited May 30, 2018 01:43PM) (new) - rated it 3 stars

Beyond Birthday I have to echo Carol here: that was a great compliment--which ironically shows that you are as a good a writer as you wish you were...

Am I making sense, C? Do I need to take my meds now?


Erica Cillian, *that* was a great compliment 😊Thank you!


message 28: by Cathy (last edited May 30, 2018 03:10PM) (new)

Cathy consistently along archetypical lines, the conclusion was forgone
That makes it boring, no? I know, I over-simplify. But being pretty sure how it will end or who will survive, etc., takes the fun out of it for me somewhat.


carol. (not getting notifications) Cathy (cathepsut) wrote: "consistently along archetypical lines, the conclusion was forgone
That makes it boring, no? I know, I over-simplify. But being pretty sure how it will end or who will survive, etc., takes the fun o..."


There isn't a lot of danger in Sanderson to me. Fans may argue otherwise.


carol. (not getting notifications) Cillian wrote: "Am I making sense, C? Do I need to take my meds now?"


Yes :D


Beyond Birthday Yes, I need my meds, or yes, I'm making sense?

:P


Beyond Birthday Got it. Meds it is...


message 34: by Shannan (new) - added it

Shannan I’m only just starting this book but I know what I’m in for, I couldn’t have said it better with the capital G for good.


carol. (not getting notifications) Thanks, Shannan. Hope you enjoy!


Eye of Sauron "Elliptical-worthy" is probably the most accurately concise summary of this book anyone could ever write. :)


carol. (not getting notifications) Eye of Sauron wrote: ""Elliptical-worthy" is probably the most accurately concise summary of this book anyone could ever write. :)"

Thank you! Unfortunately, apparently, I didn't stop there :D


MasterSal Enjoyed this review - and agree with it ! Only thing I would point out that Terry Brooks managed to tell his story is like half the length which seems to be a less valued skill nowadays with the magic system Focus - aka Shannara fan here 😅


carol. (not getting notifications) Thank you so much SSShafiq for commenting. I was a Shannara fan growing up, but I'd have to beg to differ on the length. I mean, he could tell a single arc, but the overall arc, idk. I mean, how many books were set in that world? I still have the first four, I think.


Nicholas Perez I've only read Warbreaker and Skyward before, the latter being one his YA books. I liked Warbreaker, but I took issues with the explanation of the magic system and its writing was fine, nothing I hate and nothing I loved. Skyward was really good though. I'm hesitant to get into a full adult series of his work because Warbreaker didn't fully sell it for me. I might give this one a shot since its his most popular work, but I need to feel committed first.


carol. (not getting notifications) I thought it stood okay on it's own, if you want a flavor of it. I can't tell you much more; Sanderson doesn't really work for me.


message 42: by T (new) - rated it 4 stars

T Coffee Fiend I wouldn't keep reading Mistborn Carol, I dont' think the series improves from the first book.

Nicholas, if you liked Warbreaker then give Way of Kings a chance. I think Way of Kings has significantly improved writing from Sanderson [at least with respects to the repetitiveness i found in some of his earlier work, including Warbreaker], but note that he's more about building worlds out with magic systems and societal rules/norms and less about beautiful prose. in fact the prose is clean and straightforward but rarely memorable.

However considering the length of his books I think that is preferable.


Hiroto That comparison with blockbuster movies... Big brained.
I completely agree on almost all points of this review, expect about the icon level of the characters. They are indeed archetypes of what's usually offered in this type of story, but they still lacked personnality for me. I didn't care too much about them, not as much as I cared about the actual plot line.


Drishti This is so accurate!!!
I loved the book as i read it and kinda feel that i was biased towards him, given the hype and Kickstarter record.
The book is no where bad. It's awesome but it did feel like reading a movie scene by scene.
I have been watching his lectures and could find the archetypes right away as i read the book but they are well hidden unless u know how to look. Though i loved the characters, Even cried for the one, i felt the lack of emotions too. Kelsier and vin were a great pair for emotional side of the story but having read mostly ya books, i felt i stuck to his book because i loved the plot and i stuck to those books because i loved the characters ( i even read the books with poor plot only because i loved the characters so much)


message 45: by John (new) - rated it 2 stars

John Whelan I think you are too kind. Sanderson's writing is closer to a soap opera, than a movie. I find all the faux tension and mini cliff hangers keep dropping me out of any involvement I might have with the story.


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