What do you think?
Rate this book
Nothing Without Us Too
Multi-genre fiction where once again, we are the stars.
Nothing Without Us Too follows the theme of Nothing Without Us (a 2020 Prix Aurora Award finalist), featuring more stories by authors who are disabled, d/Deaf, Blind or visually impaired, neurodivergent, Spoonie, and/or who manage mental illness. The lived experiences of their protagonists are found across many demographics—such as race, culture, financial status, religion, gender, age, and/or sexual orientation. We want to present these stories because diversity is reality, and it belongs in literary and genre fiction.
So, whether we're on Earth or carted away to a fantastical plain, these tales can teleport us elsewhere yet resonate deep within.
Nothing Without Us Too follows the theme of Nothing Without Us (a 2020 Prix Aurora Award finalist), featuring more stories by authors who are disabled, d/Deaf, Blind or visually impaired, neurodivergent, Spoonie, and/or who manage mental illness. The lived experiences of their protagonists are found across many demographics—such as race, culture, financial status, religion, gender, age, and/or sexual orientation. We want to present these stories because diversity is reality, and it belongs in literary and genre fiction.
So, whether we're on Earth or carted away to a fantastical plain, these tales can teleport us elsewhere yet resonate deep within.
295 pages, Kindle Edition
First published September 15, 2022
About the author
Cait Gordon
14 books38 followersCait Gordon is an autistic, disabled, and queer Canadian writer of speculative fiction that celebrates diversity. Originally from Verdun, Québec, Cait had worked for over two decades as a technical writer, then channelled her love for words into storytelling.
She is the author of Life in the ’Cosm, The Stealth Lovers, and Season One: Iris and the Crew Tear Through Space! Her short stories appear in Alice Unbound Beyond Wonderland, We Shall Be Monsters, Mighty: An Anthology of Disabled Superheroes, and There’s No Place. “The Hilltop Gathering” from We Shall Be Monsters stars a disabled monster and was discussed at Frankenstein-themed literary symposium at Carleton University.
In 2016, Cait founded The Spoonie Authors Network to connect with other writers in the Disability community. Her desire to find better disabled and neurodivergent representation in fiction prompted Cait to co-edit Nothing Without Us and Nothing Without Us Too with Talia C. Johnson. These multi-genre anthologies feature authors and protagonists who are disabled, d/Deaf, Blind, neurodivergent, Spoonie, and/or they manage mental illness. Nothing Without Us was part of a disability studies course at Trent University and earned a 2020 Prix Aurora Award nomination. Nothing Without Us Too won a Prix Aurora Award in 2023.
Even though her works include issues about identity and human/alien/monster rights, Cait feels humour is an essential part of world-building. “Without humour, it doesn’t feel realistic.”
She lives in Ottawa with her husband, Canadian author Bruce D. Gordon. She’s friendly, feisty, and really loves cake.
She is the author of Life in the ’Cosm, The Stealth Lovers, and Season One: Iris and the Crew Tear Through Space! Her short stories appear in Alice Unbound Beyond Wonderland, We Shall Be Monsters, Mighty: An Anthology of Disabled Superheroes, and There’s No Place. “The Hilltop Gathering” from We Shall Be Monsters stars a disabled monster and was discussed at Frankenstein-themed literary symposium at Carleton University.
In 2016, Cait founded The Spoonie Authors Network to connect with other writers in the Disability community. Her desire to find better disabled and neurodivergent representation in fiction prompted Cait to co-edit Nothing Without Us and Nothing Without Us Too with Talia C. Johnson. These multi-genre anthologies feature authors and protagonists who are disabled, d/Deaf, Blind, neurodivergent, Spoonie, and/or they manage mental illness. Nothing Without Us was part of a disability studies course at Trent University and earned a 2020 Prix Aurora Award nomination. Nothing Without Us Too won a Prix Aurora Award in 2023.
Even though her works include issues about identity and human/alien/monster rights, Cait feels humour is an essential part of world-building. “Without humour, it doesn’t feel realistic.”
She lives in Ottawa with her husband, Canadian author Bruce D. Gordon. She’s friendly, feisty, and really loves cake.
Ratings & Reviews
Friends & Following
Create a free account to discover what your friends think of this book!
Community Reviews
Displaying 1 - 4 of 4 reviews
September 1, 2022
I was lucky enough to read and blurb an early copy of Cait and Talia's newest anthology. As a voracious and chronically ill reader, I so rarely get to see myself reflected in books the way I do in Nothing Without Us Too. It’s so refreshing to see a group of disabled authors across a diversity of genres tell our stories with empathy, understanding, and creativity.
December 28, 2022
I loved the first in the series, and this one was even better, somehow.
I really appreciated the content warnings before each chapter. There was one in the first book that I wouldn't have read if it had had the content warning ahead of it.
So many excellent, excellent stories in this book. Everyone should read it.
I really appreciated the content warnings before each chapter. There was one in the first book that I wouldn't have read if it had had the content warning ahead of it.
So many excellent, excellent stories in this book. Everyone should read it.
September 30, 2022
Originally posted on Just Geeking by.
I reviewed this book as part of GeekDis 2022 an event discussing disability representation in pop culture from the perspective of the disabled and neurodivergent community.
Content warnings:
I was deeply impressed by Nothing Without Us for multiple reasons, and didn’t think that Cait Gordon and Talia C. Johnson could improve on the formula they had already perfected. I was wrong; Nothing Without Us Too is even better than its predecessor. While the first anthology was a tentative toe dipped in the water to see if there was any interest for an anthology about disability by disabled writers, the second one is a plunge into that pond. Created during the pandemic, Nothing Without Us Too is unapologetic and bold, and it’s exactly what is needed.
The foreword this time is by the author Amanda Leduc known for her non-fiction book Disfigured: On Fairy Tales, Disability, and Making Space. It’s another book that has been on my TBR for a long time, and after reading this foreword I’ll be pushing it up the pile. She does an excellent job of introducing the anthology and discussing why disability representation is so important.
One welcome change to the anthology this time is content notes at the start of each story. In the last anthology there was one particular story that was particularly triggering for me, so I really appreciated the heads-up this time. Considering the topics discussed in this book it’s a very good idea, and I’m sure it will make a lot of people feel more comfortable.
As with the previous anthology trying to pick favourites is difficult as the selection was top-notch. I do want to mention some notable ones that stood out for one reason or another. Once again the editors’ skills shine through with their curation and the first story sets the tone perfectly. ‘Tour of the Facilities’ by Sienna Tristen is a tongue-in-cheek account of what it’s like to stay somewhere which many people will relate to. The second story, ‘Saving the World at the Bat Outta Heck’ by Mart Meg Candelaria takes on the vampire trope from a neurodivergent perspective. This one had me chuckling for a long time after I finished reading it, and has had a huge impact on me as a writer.
‘Health Benefits’ by Jessica Corra offers a terrifying glance into the future while interrogating the charity model of disability. The wonderfully clever ‘Neurodivergent Hire’ by Cathy Smith is a great read, as is ‘Visiting Hours’ by Stephen Graham King which I really hope becomes a full novel at some point because I need to know how that story ends! The heart-warming ‘Fishing in Martian Waters’ by Bernadette Gabay Dyer will leave you smiling and is juxtaposed by the next story ‘At The Terminus’ by A. Gregory Frankson which is a frank look at the institutional ableism of mental illness.
‘The Pronoun Game’ by Rook Laz was one of my favourites and is about a non-binary teenager opening up to their school therapist about the days when they have disassociate and have days when their pronoun is “it”. It’s a very well written story that gives a lovely insight into a neurodivergent mind. Similarly, ’24 Things You Never Needed to Know that are Mostly About Tea’ by Anita Goveas uses an inventive format of an article to talk about what women have to deal with when struggling with infertility. The very on point ‘Political On-Ramp’ by Matthew Del Papa is a must-read because the barriers that George faces in this story are happening to disabled politicians, advocates and activists every day. Likewise, ‘Bring it to the Yard Sale’ by Juliet Hill confronts the important issue of non-disabled actors copying the medical symptoms of disabled people to use in their roles.
Just as Nothing Without Us Too begins with the perfect stories it ends with the beautifully poignant ‘Together’ by Polly Orr. In it the protagonist asks someone why they help the people who used to see us less than human. They are told “We did it because we understood. Because we had been there; different, forgotten, left out” and that to me sums up how many of us felt during the pandemic, especially those of us with ME/CFS. We offered our experiences, our tips and hacks, anything we could because we knew what people were going through. We go through it every day, and we knew that there would be some people who wouldn’t just dust themselves off and go back to their old lives, they would become one of us, one of the disabled community.
I’m going to stop there because I could keep going on and on. Even the ones I have not mentioned are superb with disabled and neurodivergent stories and characters being told in multiple genres. There’s urban fantasy, science fiction, dystopia, and contemporary fiction. Nothing Without Us Too is the disabled and neurodivergent anthology that we all need in the aftermath of a pandemic that has left us feeling lost, voiceless and unnoticed. If you read one anthology this year then make it this one.
A full list of the stories and disability representation:
Tour of the Facilities by Sienna Tristen – Sensory triggers
Saving the World at the Bat Outta Heck by Mart Meg Candelaria – Neurodivergent
Pulling Futures, Plucking Thyme by Avi Silver – Mental Health, Anaemia,
Why I’m Deleting My Account by Cal G. (AKA @RandomTDotQweirdo) H.E. Casson – ADHD, cPTSD,
Health Benefits by Jessica Corra – Chronic Pain, Unknown condition
Orange Rope for Sale by N.R.M. Roshak – Depression, Suicidal Ideation
Neurodivergent Hire by Cathy Smith – Neurodivergent
Visiting Hours by Stephen Graham King – Severe injury resulting in leg amputations and right arm amputation, Trauma, Visually Impairment, Prosthetics, Wheelchair user,
Fishing in Martian Waters by Bernadette Gabay Dyer – Glaucoma
At The Terminus by A. Gregory Frankson – Mental Illness
The Rats by B. Lawrence – Mental Health, Delusions
Lament of the Lotus Eater by Erin Rockfort – Depression, Suicide Ideation
A Cure for Crying by Ari Fletcher-Bai – Unknown condition
The Pronoun Game by Rook Laz – Dissociative Disorder, Neurodivergent
24 Things You Never Needed to Know that are Mostly About Tea by Anita Goveas – Infertility
Lattes and Latent Luminaries by Michelle F. Goddard – Trichotillomania
Semper Ubi Sub Ubi by Jen Desmarais – Eating Disorder
Political On-Ramp by Matthew Del Papa – Wheelchair User
Crows’ Hoard by Jayne Barnard – Suicide Ideation, Chronic Pain, Chronic Fatigue
Should I Stay by Dianna Gunn – Suicide Ideation, Anxiety, Depression, Self-Harm, Wrist Braces, Chronic Pain, Trauma
Heart on Your Sleeve by Holly Schofield – Anxiety
Bring it to the Yard Sale by Juliet Hill – Tourette’s Syndrome
Cool Dudes and SantaS by Anita Haas – Visual Impairment, Invisible disability
The Flap by Tea Gerbeza – Scoliosis, Intestinal Malrotation
Once Upon an End Time by Jessica Peter – Hearing Impairment, Deaf Community
Pest by Melissa Mead – Down Syndrome, Cerebral Palsy, Mental Health, PTSD, other unnamed disabilities
Together by Polly Orr – Neurodivergent, Mental Health, Trauma
BLOG | REVIEWS | REVIEW SCHEDULE | TWITTER | INSTAGRAM | PINTEREST |
I reviewed this book as part of GeekDis 2022 an event discussing disability representation in pop culture from the perspective of the disabled and neurodivergent community.
Content warnings:
I was deeply impressed by Nothing Without Us for multiple reasons, and didn’t think that Cait Gordon and Talia C. Johnson could improve on the formula they had already perfected. I was wrong; Nothing Without Us Too is even better than its predecessor. While the first anthology was a tentative toe dipped in the water to see if there was any interest for an anthology about disability by disabled writers, the second one is a plunge into that pond. Created during the pandemic, Nothing Without Us Too is unapologetic and bold, and it’s exactly what is needed.
The foreword this time is by the author Amanda Leduc known for her non-fiction book Disfigured: On Fairy Tales, Disability, and Making Space. It’s another book that has been on my TBR for a long time, and after reading this foreword I’ll be pushing it up the pile. She does an excellent job of introducing the anthology and discussing why disability representation is so important.
One welcome change to the anthology this time is content notes at the start of each story. In the last anthology there was one particular story that was particularly triggering for me, so I really appreciated the heads-up this time. Considering the topics discussed in this book it’s a very good idea, and I’m sure it will make a lot of people feel more comfortable.
As with the previous anthology trying to pick favourites is difficult as the selection was top-notch. I do want to mention some notable ones that stood out for one reason or another. Once again the editors’ skills shine through with their curation and the first story sets the tone perfectly. ‘Tour of the Facilities’ by Sienna Tristen is a tongue-in-cheek account of what it’s like to stay somewhere which many people will relate to. The second story, ‘Saving the World at the Bat Outta Heck’ by Mart Meg Candelaria takes on the vampire trope from a neurodivergent perspective. This one had me chuckling for a long time after I finished reading it, and has had a huge impact on me as a writer.
‘Health Benefits’ by Jessica Corra offers a terrifying glance into the future while interrogating the charity model of disability. The wonderfully clever ‘Neurodivergent Hire’ by Cathy Smith is a great read, as is ‘Visiting Hours’ by Stephen Graham King which I really hope becomes a full novel at some point because I need to know how that story ends! The heart-warming ‘Fishing in Martian Waters’ by Bernadette Gabay Dyer will leave you smiling and is juxtaposed by the next story ‘At The Terminus’ by A. Gregory Frankson which is a frank look at the institutional ableism of mental illness.
‘The Pronoun Game’ by Rook Laz was one of my favourites and is about a non-binary teenager opening up to their school therapist about the days when they have disassociate and have days when their pronoun is “it”. It’s a very well written story that gives a lovely insight into a neurodivergent mind. Similarly, ’24 Things You Never Needed to Know that are Mostly About Tea’ by Anita Goveas uses an inventive format of an article to talk about what women have to deal with when struggling with infertility. The very on point ‘Political On-Ramp’ by Matthew Del Papa is a must-read because the barriers that George faces in this story are happening to disabled politicians, advocates and activists every day. Likewise, ‘Bring it to the Yard Sale’ by Juliet Hill confronts the important issue of non-disabled actors copying the medical symptoms of disabled people to use in their roles.
Just as Nothing Without Us Too begins with the perfect stories it ends with the beautifully poignant ‘Together’ by Polly Orr. In it the protagonist asks someone why they help the people who used to see us less than human. They are told “We did it because we understood. Because we had been there; different, forgotten, left out” and that to me sums up how many of us felt during the pandemic, especially those of us with ME/CFS. We offered our experiences, our tips and hacks, anything we could because we knew what people were going through. We go through it every day, and we knew that there would be some people who wouldn’t just dust themselves off and go back to their old lives, they would become one of us, one of the disabled community.
I’m going to stop there because I could keep going on and on. Even the ones I have not mentioned are superb with disabled and neurodivergent stories and characters being told in multiple genres. There’s urban fantasy, science fiction, dystopia, and contemporary fiction. Nothing Without Us Too is the disabled and neurodivergent anthology that we all need in the aftermath of a pandemic that has left us feeling lost, voiceless and unnoticed. If you read one anthology this year then make it this one.
A full list of the stories and disability representation:
Tour of the Facilities by Sienna Tristen – Sensory triggers
Saving the World at the Bat Outta Heck by Mart Meg Candelaria – Neurodivergent
Pulling Futures, Plucking Thyme by Avi Silver – Mental Health, Anaemia,
Why I’m Deleting My Account by Cal G. (AKA @RandomTDotQweirdo) H.E. Casson – ADHD, cPTSD,
Health Benefits by Jessica Corra – Chronic Pain, Unknown condition
Orange Rope for Sale by N.R.M. Roshak – Depression, Suicidal Ideation
Neurodivergent Hire by Cathy Smith – Neurodivergent
Visiting Hours by Stephen Graham King – Severe injury resulting in leg amputations and right arm amputation, Trauma, Visually Impairment, Prosthetics, Wheelchair user,
Fishing in Martian Waters by Bernadette Gabay Dyer – Glaucoma
At The Terminus by A. Gregory Frankson – Mental Illness
The Rats by B. Lawrence – Mental Health, Delusions
Lament of the Lotus Eater by Erin Rockfort – Depression, Suicide Ideation
A Cure for Crying by Ari Fletcher-Bai – Unknown condition
The Pronoun Game by Rook Laz – Dissociative Disorder, Neurodivergent
24 Things You Never Needed to Know that are Mostly About Tea by Anita Goveas – Infertility
Lattes and Latent Luminaries by Michelle F. Goddard – Trichotillomania
Semper Ubi Sub Ubi by Jen Desmarais – Eating Disorder
Political On-Ramp by Matthew Del Papa – Wheelchair User
Crows’ Hoard by Jayne Barnard – Suicide Ideation, Chronic Pain, Chronic Fatigue
Should I Stay by Dianna Gunn – Suicide Ideation, Anxiety, Depression, Self-Harm, Wrist Braces, Chronic Pain, Trauma
Heart on Your Sleeve by Holly Schofield – Anxiety
Bring it to the Yard Sale by Juliet Hill – Tourette’s Syndrome
Cool Dudes and SantaS by Anita Haas – Visual Impairment, Invisible disability
The Flap by Tea Gerbeza – Scoliosis, Intestinal Malrotation
Once Upon an End Time by Jessica Peter – Hearing Impairment, Deaf Community
Pest by Melissa Mead – Down Syndrome, Cerebral Palsy, Mental Health, PTSD, other unnamed disabilities
Together by Polly Orr – Neurodivergent, Mental Health, Trauma
BLOG | REVIEWS | REVIEW SCHEDULE | TWITTER | INSTAGRAM | PINTEREST |
June 2, 2024
Bright, original collection of short stories by young and talented Canadian authors! Realistic and poignant stories about disabled, neurodivergent , spoonie and many other interesting and entertaining tellings! Loved this one!
Displaying 1 - 4 of 4 reviews