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This page has no quotes but the author is repeating tag removal. Please delete the page. MathXplore (talk) 06:01, 8 September 2024 (UTC)
Done by someone else. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 15:26, 8 September 2024 (UTC)
SheSaid entries made in userspace
[edit]I found that some SheSaid participants have made their submissions in their userspace. Please see special:permalink/3577235 and special:permalink/3577229. Can an admin move these to the mainspace without redirects? MathXplore (talk) 13:34, 9 September 2024 (UTC)
I think this username is not OK (using website name). Can an admin have a look here? MathXplore (talk) 00:17, 17 September 2024 (UTC)
- I have blocked the account as having an inappropriate SPAM username. ~ ♞☤☮♌︎Kalki ⚚⚓︎⊙☳☶⚡ 01:09, 17 September 2024 (UTC)
136.158.33.179
[edit]Please block 136.158.33.179 (repeated creation of offensive pages). Thank you. Cysquatch (talk) 23:52, 19 September 2024 (UTC)
More eyes on JK Rowling
[edit]Consensus is needed at Talk:J._K._Rowling#Astead_Herndon_"fairly_well-known_quote".
The article about the controversial UK author needs cleanup and improvement. Not-very-quotable quotes embellished with POV-pushing "clarifications" are piling up e.g. not-very "pithy, witty, wise, eloquent, or poignant" attacks on Labour Party [1] or this one taking the opportunity to denounce several SNP politicians.
Surely the "about" section should be allowed to contain SOME quotable criticisms of JKR. Also, although it is fine for a person's article to represent their viewpoint, this section is so extensive I worry about copyright issues. HouseOfChange (talk) 17:57, 20 September 2024 (UTC)
- The "attack on Labour" quote is from a June article published in the London Times during the UK general election and gained considerable attention in the UK. Practically every week, Rowling receives coverage for her dispute with particular policies of the Scottish National Party, currently leading the devolved government in Scotland, and her views on women's rights vs the trans-rights movement. The immediate context may soon fade, so I have tried to provide it in the notes which follow. The four SNP politicians mentioned in the edit HoC includes are not identified in the current version, but they are in multiple reliable sources, so I was clearly not including false information. The "decapitate TERFFs" placard was used at a demonstration after the Westminster government rejected a bill passed by the Scottish parliament, the first time it has happened in a quarter century of devolution. I make it clear the politicians say they had not seen it and denounce it. So the whole context is clearly notable, and the politicians surely deserve their defence to be included. The extracts from Rowling's 2020 essay on sex and gender issues may be too long on copyright grounds, but it is the main reason she has become controversial for many, so it is certainly notable. Philip Cross (talk) 18:24, 20 September 2024 (UTC)
- Glad we agree on reducing one part's copyvio--I made a start. I also reduced much bolding, which should be used to highlight especially quotable bits, not to emphasize points of view which an editor happens to share. WQ showcases quotes and is unsuited to longform preaching of any particular viewpoint. HouseOfChange (talk) 20:34, 21 September 2024 (UTC)
I did a "clean-up" on the 2023 section, to show what I propose. Quotes should be trimmed for quotability, and "clarifications" should stick to clarification, not extend into endorsing viewpoints or shaming bad guys. HouseOfChange (talk) 03:29, 22 September 2024 (UTC)
- One of your deletions removed a link to a Wikipedia article on a rapist, a case which became notable in the UK. In the other you removed any indication of the party the politicians represented and the constitutional issue they were demonstrating against which involved a much reported bill passed by the Scottish parliament, but blocked by the Westminster government. I am assuming not all users will read the sources, some of which are behind paywalls. My notes were an attempt to establish the notability of the quotes via the notability of the issues Rowling was responding to. Otherwise the choice of comments made by JKR, which have been extensive, will look random. Philip Cross (talk) 03:53, 22 September 2024 (UTC)
- The notability/quotability of quotes doesn't require or benefit from political point-scoring pro or con a speaker's tiny local issues. On the contrary, openly partisan point-scoring makes WQ look bad.
- Consider Trump's "In Springfield, they're eating the dogs...They're eating the cats." Notable. quotable, cited to RS that gives its context. Adding editorial "clarifications" to that quote would pitchfork us in no-win partisan battles that shouldn't be happening here. WQ is not the place for it. HouseOfChange (talk) 17:49, 22 September 2024 (UTC)
- These two examples are not "tiny local issues" in the UK, as I have tried to explain, but may seem to be for people thousands of miles away. As it happens, the Trump WQ article is grossly over-extended with repetition, possibly the largest of all WQ articles. JKR's article is not excessively long. Philip Cross (talk) 17:57, 22 September 2024 (UTC)
- Bolding the part of my comment above that is most important, in the hope it stands out from the TLDR being built here: openly partisan point-scoring makes WQ look bad. HouseOfChange (talk) 18:02, 22 September 2024 (UTC)
- It works both ways, "He/him" or rather "He/him", if you prefer. Philip Cross (talk) 18:12, 22 September 2024 (UTC)