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:::I cannot revert the article to a particular version per [[WP:PROTECT]]. Once an agreement is reached, and it is shown that the dispute is over, the page can be unprotected. [[User:Camaron1|Camaron1 | Chris]] <small>[[User talk:Camaron1|(talk)]]</small> 13:40, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
:::I cannot revert the article to a particular version per [[WP:PROTECT]]. Once an agreement is reached, and it is shown that the dispute is over, the page can be unprotected. [[User:Camaron1|Camaron1 | Chris]] <small>[[User talk:Camaron1|(talk)]]</small> 13:40, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

::::The user doing this is happy to see the gutted version on wikipedia, he is gone. Good job. Dispute is over.[[Special:Contributions/65.87.185.73|65.87.185.73]] ([[User talk:65.87.185.73|talk]]) 13:58, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

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Thank you to all those that participated in my request for adminship, which closed successfully with 47 supports, 3 opposes, and 0 neutrals. I am glad that the community thinks it can trust me with these tools; I will try and use my new mop and bucket (or vacuum cleaner!) carefully. Camaron1 | Chris (talk)


Always use a pencil, never use a pen. If you use a pencil you can rub it out and start all over again! Click here to leave me a new message.

Editor review

Again, my pleasure. Please let me know when you decide to go forward with your admin request. (It's not canvassing if it's requested. :D) I'm not offering to nom you, since you've got that fully covered as it is and since I'm not that frequent a participant at RfA, but I would most definitely like to support you. --Moonriddengirl (talk) 21:12, 8 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for your support, I will contact you when the RFA goes live (people will complain if anyone but the nominaters and the candidate comment on the RFA page before then). I have still not fully decided when I am going to run for the tools, I want to be sure I am ready, though before or during January 2008 was what I have in mind. Happy editing! Camaron1 | Chris 21:28, 8 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I promise not to touch it before its properly listed. :D --Moonriddengirl (talk) 22:11, 8 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

ESC Stuff

Hi,

I see that you are also part of WikiProject Eurovision.

Thanks for keeping the 2008 page up-to-date, I know I started it and planned to help a lot with it but I've been a bit busy recently.

When the national selections start I think we should make the pages as soon as we can, i.e. now. We will need to catch up quite quickly as Bulgaria and Iceland have started. I have seen that the Sweden 08 page is up-to-date also. If we start early we'll have accurate, well-written articles ready for May 08.

I will try to play as much of a part in this as I can.

Please reply with more ideas, how to do this, etc. on my page... ¡иąтнąи! | Talk | Email| 17:11, 9 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Replied at User talk:Celticfan383 per request. Camaron1 | Chris 19:29, 11 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for the reply. I think if we make the pages with enough info they'll stay. We have enough info for Iceland and Bulgaria so we could start them. ¡иąтнąи! | Talk | Email| 20:49, 11 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Yes I agree, we would need to re-create the template as well. Camaron1 | Chris 20:56, 11 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Admin coaching

I've added a reply (at last!) on your page. The Rambling Man 14:35, 15 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I will have a look now. Camaron1 | Chris 19:34, 15 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Your anon Euro-vandal, pushing his/her luck big time as far as I can see. Once more and it really is AIV time I'm afraid. The lack of any explanation and the lack of any edit summary and the clear removal of cited statements is, unfortunately, clear vandalism as far as I'm concerned. Since it's an anon who seems to edit intermittently I'd recommend a week block with a serious piece of advice to (a) communicate and (b) use edit summaries. Let me know if he/she returns... The Rambling Man 22:18, 15 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, the fact the user is ignoring the block warning I think gives a sound case to call it vandalism, I will let you know if he/she returns. I am a little bit more hesitant than would I be normally, as I am involved in editing the article. Camaron1 | Chris 16:27, 16 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the replies

Thank you for your replies and explaination of "pre-emptive disambiguation". The link did not help, but your expanded explaination was of a great assistance. Thank you. Dbiel (Talk) 18:30, 17 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

You're welcome. Camaron1 | Chris 20:01, 17 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thx spam


Thank you, Camaron1, for supporting my RfB, which I withdrew at a final tally of (33/12/1). I failed to overcome the not unforeseeable opposition, but I am humbled by some extremely supportive, encouraging words I could read. In order to honor your trust, I once again vow to continue working and improving. Please contact me should you have any advice or recommendation to give. Or, should you need assistance. I am, as will always be, at your service. Again, please accept my most sincere gratitude.

Best regards, Húsönd 03:18, 19 November 2007 (UTC)
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Prod was an oversight

The prod tag was an accident. I was just grousing that the AfD result had not been implemented at the time. AnteaterZot (talk) 21:54, 19 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I got that impression, no worries. Camaron1 | Chris 22:36, 19 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

My RfA

Kind for your comments on my page page regarding my failed RfA. I am :( that it failed, but this will give me a chance to improve myself :) Captain panda 21:23, 24 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thats the best way of looking at it, best of luck! Camaron1 | Chris (talk) 21:43, 24 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia:WikiProject school consensus resolution

Hi, just a note to make sure you haven't missed Wikipedia:WikiProject school consensus resolution. TerriersFan (talk) 22:51, 24 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Yes I had, thanks for informing me. Camaron1 | Chris (talk) 10:42, 25 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

My User Boxes

Can you help me. I am trying to line up my talk page, and I cannot get my userboxes to go right. Thanks! --Dustihowe  Talk  19:14, 17 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, your user-boxes look alright to me - I see you have based their order on the ones on my page by the looks of things, which is good! The committed identity template might give you a problem though, my suggestion on that is to move it to a separate page, as I have done, see User:Camaron1/Committed identity. Camaron1 | Chris (talk) 19:37, 17 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Actually, (I hope you don't mind), I copied and pasted from your page. Is there a way to put my userboxes next to the welcome box on my page? Dustihowe  Talk  20:16, 17 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
No I don't mind, you can use the format of my user-page as much as you like. I have tried to fix your user-box formating. Camaron1 | Chris (talk) 20:25, 17 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Your RFA

Hey, thanks for your note. Be sure to drop me a line as soon as you transclude, I seem to be able to get to a PC at least once every few days. Have a good Christmas yourself if I don't speak to you before. All the best, from sunny Laos, The Rambling Man on tour (talk) 04:50, 21 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I will, enjoy the sun. Camaron1 | Chris (talk) 13:27, 21 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I see this thread and I'm surprised it hasn't already happened, I've already got your RFA on my watchlist. Good luck. Best regards, Rt. 22:20, 22 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for your kind words, you are not the first person to say that; expect my request to transclude very shortly. Camaron1 | Chris (talk) 22:55, 22 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

 Done - Good luck :) Dihydrogen Monoxide (Review) 00:02, 23 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

You suspected...man, if I knew you saw it coming I'd have done a lot worse :P Good luck! Dihydrogen Monoxide (Review) 23:14, 23 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I'd be delighted to offer my co nom support - I note your health issue notice - are you okay still to run? I won't be online on the 25th (for clear reasons!) but if you are okay I will be delighted to write a nom statement on boxing day. If you'd prefer to get it running prior to my strong support will be forthcoming! Pedro :  Chat  —Preceding comment was added at 22:24, 24 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Thats good to hear. I am feeling better than I was on the health front so I should be ok to run by boxing day; it would be great if you could write a co-nom for then. In the meantime, have a great Christmas! Camaron1 | Chris (talk) 22:55, 24 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Writing it now. Pedro :  Chat  22:55, 26 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Thats great, don't rush yourself though, there is no immediate rush and I recognise your busy at the moment. Camaron1 | Chris (talk) 22:59, 26 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Done. And I'm now very interested in your edits to PSC. Are you an old Symondian? Pedro :  Chat  23:10, 26 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I assume you refer to Peter Symonds College, unfortunately no, I knew nothing about the college before I started editing the article. Anyway by the looks of it we are ready to transclude. Camaron1 | Chris (talk) 09:22, 27 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
That's the one! I just noticed your edits to the article and wondered (it's my old college). When I'm next in Winchester I'll see if I can take a photo of the main building to add into the article. I live nearby so hopefully in the new year. Best of luck on the RfA - it's a horrid week!!! Pedro :  Chat  13:33, 27 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks, I am sure I will manage this week. I should probably get some photos for the Alton College article I am working on too. Camaron1 | Chris (talk) 15:36, 27 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Preemptive congrats! If only ever RfA went as well as yours :) Dihydrogen Monoxide (Review) 23:10, 29 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Hey, I've caught it! Looks like it's going well to me. Can't lend much credence to either oppose, and don't think it'll be an issue anyway, but good luck with the rest of it. Let me know how you get on. All the best, The Rambling Man on tour (talk) 05:19, 30 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks both of you! Yes I am glad it is going quite well, as for the opposition well there are few RFAs these days which get no opposes, and I have to say I generally agree with you / The Rambling Man on the weight of their comments. The second oppose seems to be more of a protest than anything personal, and I have decided I am not changing my mind on adding myself to the category.
I have noticed that you / Dihydrogen Monoxide are having an RFA at the same time. I wish you / DM the best of luck! I have decided not to participate for now to avoid a potential conflict of interest, but I will participate (very likely to support) if it is still running after my RFA closes - which it will if it runs all the way through. Camaron1 | Chris (talk) 11:38, 30 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

You are now an administrator

Congratulations, I have just closed your RfA as successful and made you an administrator. Take a look at the administrators' how-to guide and the administrators' reading list if you haven't read those already. Also, the practice exercises at the new admin school may be useful. If you have any questions drop me a message at my talk page. Best wishes, WjBscribe 11:13, 3 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hey Hey! Congrats from your co-nominator. Well done mate. Pedro :  Chat  11:43, 3 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Congratulations and best regards. :) --Moonriddengirl (talk) 12:32, 3 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Hey Hey! What did I tell you? Great show. Good luck! Best regards, Rt. 15:02, 3 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
You are doubly welcome. :-) Bearian (talk) —Preceding comment was added at 18:38, 4 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks everyone. I will check out WP:NAS when I get the chance, so I can practise before using the tools "for real". Just as a side-note, I am currently requesting a user-name chance at Wikipedia:Changing username/Usurpations to 'Camaron', which may or may not be successful. Camaron1 | Chris (talk) 18:46, 3 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Congrats also on mybehalf on been a new admin.--JForget 19:30, 4 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Baton Rouge Magnet High School assessment

I saw your assessment on Baton Rouge Magnet High School. I was wondering what your take is on the building photo gallery since someone keeps restoring it and I don't think it was there when you did the assessment. AliveFreeHappy (talk) 17:15, 3 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I generally agree with you that the inclusion of such a photo gallery purely on damage to the school does not follow WP:UNDUE. This appears to be one user using multiple similar IPs who wants the content in the article against the views of multiple other users; I have given a 3rr warning for now, and I will keep an eye on the page. Camaron1 | Chris (talk) 17:53, 3 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for the extra eyeballs. I'd like to avoid asking for page protection if possible since school articles rely on IP editors in a large way. AliveFreeHappy (talk) 18:03, 3 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
On close examination it is only one IP which is revert warring - that means if the user continues to edit war and refuse to discuss it, then a block would be better than page protection. My suggestion would be is to try and bring the issue back-up on the talk page, and see how it goes. Camaron1 | Chris (talk) 18:50, 3 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, we'll give that another round. If we can only get that editor to use the talk page rather than just editing, it would be a big improvement. AliveFreeHappy (talk) 19:21, 3 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
There is more then one person involved, as I'm different from the person who put up the issue. Just because you don't like how the facts might be seen by other people does not change that they are fact. The school is damaged, the pictures show it, the citations show it. The facts are well supported now. Cozret (talk) 04:45, 4 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
And now Camaron1 you can see what the problem is. They don't get that it doesn't matter if the information is positive or negative, it's about creating a balanced article. AliveFreeHappy (talk) 04:59, 4 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
No, the issue is your moving goal post. Every time someone meets the requirements you say will make you happy, you push the goal post back another few yards. You claim there is a one person war, and there is. Many people working to create a up-to-date entry and you working to censor it.--Cozret (talk) 05:10, 4 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Actually, if you look back you'll see I have the same issues today as I originally did. [1]. AliveFreeHappy (talk) 05:12, 4 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

FYI

This may be of interest to you. Pedro :  Chat  22:45, 3 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, I have commented. Camaron1 | Chris (talk) 17:43, 4 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Damn expensive long distance flights...:( Congrats on RfA! :) Dihydrogen Monoxide 21:03, 4 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks, lol. Camaron1 | Chris (talk) 22:06, 4 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Arnold Murray Page

You protected the wrong page, this person and another started changing it on 10 Dec 2007. Previous to that, the page has been unchanged for a long time.

Anon '208.127.154.159' and now 'Crusader777', gutted the article and references to other articles, like the one on 'roy gillaspie' were also gutted.

By protecting the wrong article, there is no dispute, they are happy to have the gutted, 'sanitized' version up on wikipedia.

That is why the donations are so low, so many personal agendas here. Tss8071 (talk) 13:10, 5 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I protected the article upon request at WP:RFPP. Whatever is going on the edit warring by multiple users had to stop. I protected the article on the version the page it happened to be at, it is not an endorsement of the current version. Camaron1 | Chris (talk) 13:15, 5 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Then maybe you should have looked into it further to see which article belongs there. Prior to 10 December 2007, the article was fine and remained unchanged for a long time.
I noticed you put a dispute tag on it, why? The user gutting the article is happy to see the gutted version on wikipedia. There is no dispute now. You can remove that tag.
Another anon user participating in this also gutted the 'roy gillaspie' article down to one line because it related to 'arnold murray'. I reverted the changes but perhaps you could protect the 'one line' version as well.
It is incidents like this that make it hard for wikipedia to be considered legitimate.
I am going walking, have fun. Bye.Tss8071 (talk) 13:35, 5 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I cannot revert the article to a particular version per WP:PROTECT. Once an agreement is reached, and it is shown that the dispute is over, the page can be unprotected. Camaron1 | Chris (talk) 13:40, 5 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
The user doing this is happy to see the gutted version on wikipedia, he is gone. Good job. Dispute is over.65.87.185.73 (talk) 13:58, 5 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]